Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    Chief Justice Warren had a sterling reputation brother... this is why LBJ appointed him, cause he knew it had to be someone people trusted

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    this has beene explain, shown in TV many many times but what do conspiracy theorists do? THEY NEVER want to accept any of it, they ignore all of these facts and just spend their time readin conspiracy theories
     
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    [video=youtube;WovyEqfR8Hg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WovyEqfR8Hg[/video]
     
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    No doubt you're an excellent shot. Oswald was not. He barely qualified as sharpshooter once, he consistently shot low marksman scores. And you never shot at moving targets in an NRA match.
     
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    prove it, or it didn't happen
     
  5. Mike12

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    they agreed with most of what i wrote didn't they? That Oswald was the lone assassin and his shots killed Kennedy? Now they believed it was probably part of a conspiracy but guess what? they had no evidence, just a 'hunch'.

    Oswald was an interesting fellow, a loser, but interesting. He was a conflicted individual who spent time in Russia, was an ex-marine and had some ties to Cuba; he had false identities too. It wouldn't be shocking to me if he had ties to CIA but the fact that no strong evidence has been uncovered yet, is too hard to ignore. I'm convined that if he had ties to CIA or others were in it, it would've come out. As a logical person who tries to take a hard look at all sides, including the many conspiracy theories, i believe he was just a nut who acted alone. The problem with conspiracy theorists is that they dont' spend too much time going over the facts and all the possible scenarios, they focus only on conspiracies. If people spend their time time googling 'JFK conspiracies' and never take the time to go over the facts, undoubtedly they will be convinced that it was a conspiracy. Some of what is written can be pretty convincing until you actually spend enough time going over the facts and all the possible explanations; then you start figuring out that most of the conspiracy theories don't hold up. Again, let's take the 'magic bullet' and 'head shot' theories for instance. There is pretty convincing stuff out there which explains how it's almost impossible for a single bullet to do what Warren commission claimed it did and how clear it is that head shot was a result of a frontal shot. Anyone can be convinced cause conspiracy theorists are really good at selling their theories.. It's only when you start taking a closer look at things and start to come across the other explainations and real facts that you start to realize that these theories are bogus. Back in the 60s, most believed Oswald did it alone and there was no conspiracy, it was a simple case. Over the past 50 years there has been so much twisting of the facts, so many lies, so many theories brought to life that now this has become such a complex case. Conspiracy theorists have written so many books, inspired hollywood movies and bombarded the public with so much BS for so long, that most people have based their beliefs on garbage, not facts.
     
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    Prove what? I didn't pose a theory. No doubt you're looking for one.
     
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    Particularly difficult with a moving target. For a mediocre marksman like Oswald it was probably more luck than skill.
     
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    I don't really follow conspiracy theories much, most of them are nonsense. I just know that there are a number circumstances around the assassination that defy logical explanation. Probably all coincidences, but I believe there exist some room for doubt.
     
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    And I never said he was an excellent shot. However, he had excellent training, firing at targets from 200-500 yards away.

    And his target was less then 100 yards away.

    Not really. Once again, they would have taught him this in bootcamp. For a target moving at 10 mph (running), you aim ½ his width in front of him when moving across your field of fire at 25 meters. One full width at 50 meters, 2 widths at 100 meters.

    When the target is moving away from you, move your point of aim slightly higher, if moving towards you slightly lower.

    This once again is Marksmanship 101, taught to every Marine. And for the last shots, the vehicle was moving away from him, at 5 MPH, no adjustments needed at those ranges and speeds.
     
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    I'm not saying he couldn't have done it, but since Oswald was killed before he could say anything we'll never hear his confession. And that brings up another question in my mind: If Oswald was seeking notoriety and infamy why would he deny anything? He's portrayed as a megalomaniac with an inferiority complex; sounds like someone who would want to claim credit for his deeds.
     
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    Oswald was arrested at around 2 pm, November 22nd.

    He was interrogated several times.

    Two days later, at 11:21 am, he was shot and killed by Jack Ruby.

    Two days wasn't enough time to say anything? BS!!!!!!
     
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    He did say something, he denied it.
     
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    Oswald could not have killed Kennedy because the shot that killed Kennedy came from the front. This testimony under oath is from Dr. Clark the neurosurgeon who examined Kennedy after he had been shot and wrote the death certificate. You can read it for yourself here: The Men Who Killed Kennedy
     
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    two days was more than enough time to get a confession.

    the Dallas Police dropped the ball.

    Oswald should have been immediately placed under the control of the FBI.

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    WRONG!!!

    the shot that killed Kennedy and the shot that injured him and hit Connely, came from behind.
     
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    That's not what everyone was saying on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. All the witnesses that afternoon were talking about shots coming from the grassy knoll. You can read Dr. Clark's testimony for yourself. He wrote the death certificate: The Men Who Killed Kennedy

    Dr. Clark,
     
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    sound reflects off large hard objects, incase you didn't know.

    and many witnesses heard shots come from the Book Depository.

    Of the 104 earwitnesses in Dealey Plaza who are on record with an opinion as to the direction from which the shots came, 54 (51.9%) thought that all shots came from the direction of the Texas School Book Depository, 33 (31.7%) thought that all shots came from the area of the grassy knoll or the triple underpass, 9 (8.7%) thought all shots came from a location entirely distinct from the knoll or the Depository, 5 (4.8%) thought they heard shots from two locations, and 3 (2.9%) thought the shots came from a direction consistent with both the knoll and the Depository

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_assassination#Shooting_in_Dealey_Plaza
     
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    The bullet was pristine.

    All the witnesses heard shots from infront of the car.

    Oswald didn't have time to say anything or confess.



    I mean seriously, all we EVER hear from the Conspiracy Theorists, are outright lies.


    How very sad for them.
     
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    Do you think that Dr. Clark was lying under oath?
     
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    why did you state something totally untrue, that:

    "All the witnesses that afternoon were talking about shots coming from the grassy knoll"


    ?????
     
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    WRONG!!!

    the autopsy proves he was shot from behind, as he had an entry wound in the back of his neck.

    the autospy also states entry wound was in the back of the head.
     
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    The Men Who Killed Kennedy

    If you go to that link you will see a picture of "Mac" Kilduff, Jr. the journalist known for making the public announcement of the death of U.S. President John F. Kennedy pointing his finger in the direction of the bullet that killed Kennedy.

    Mac Kilduff was Kennedy's Assistant White House Press Secretary, and the ranking Press Secretary on Kennedy's November 1963 trip to Dallas, Texas where Kennedy was assassinated.
     
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    a majority of witnesses stated the gunfire came from behind the car.

    witnesses standing at the Book Depository states the gunfire came from above their heads.
     
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    Do you believe that Dr. Clark lied under oath? Why? Why would Dr. Clark lie under oath?
     
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    do you believe that the autopsy is a lie?

    why would they lie on the autopsy????
     
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    I am going to answer your question even though you won't answer mine. Yes. The autopsy was a cover-up for The Men Who Killed Kennedy.

    Dr. Clark was a highly respected neurosurgeon who had no reason to lie. Dr. Clark told Arlen Specter the facts.
     
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