Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

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  1. Brother Jonathan

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    Yes, I know the difference between autosopy and an autopsy. Why don't you answer any of my questions?

    Do you deny that the medical staff at Parkland Hospital claim that the back of Kennedy's head was blown out? This is the third or fourth time I've asked.
     
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    got a link to prove this?
     
  3. Brother Jonathan

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    The Men Who Killed Kennedy
    There is a link there to Dr. Clark's testimony, under oath, with Arlen Specter where Dr. Clark makes that claim as well.
     
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    this is a link to another PF thread.

    go a link to the actual evidence?????????????????
     
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    Clearly you have no idea that those actions were illegal.
     
  6. Brother Jonathan

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    Testimony Of Dr. William Kemp Clark

    PRESS CONFERENCE
    PARKLAND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL
    DALLAS, TEXAS
    NOVEMBER 22, 1963
    2:16 P.M. CST
    AT THE WHITE HOUSE WITH WAYNE HAWKS
     
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    The fact that the SS illegally took the president from Texas and had the autopsy done somewhere else, by definition makes that autopsy invalid. Funny you bring up his brother. RFK Jr recently said his dad new there was more to it than Oswald.
     
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    his own testimony debunks your silly claim.

    he never stated with definity that the head wound was entry or exit.

    its very rude of you to misrepresent his statements.

    DR. KEMP CLARK-
    —to relieve any possibility of air being in the pleural space, the electrocardiogram had been hooked up, blood and fluids were being administered by Dr. Perry and Dr. Baxter. It was apparent that the President had sustained a lethal wound.
    A missile had gone in or out of the back of his head, causing extensive lacerations and loss of brain tissue.
     
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    oh look, Dr. Clark actually states that the bullet came though the back of the head, towards the right side:

    QUESTION-
    Doctor, can you describe the course of the wound through the head?
    DR. KEMP CLARK-
    We were too busy to be absolutely sure of the track, but the back of his head.
    QUESTION-
    And through the neck?
    DR. KEMP CLARK-
    Principally on his right side, towards the right side.
     
  10. Brother Jonathan

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    Keep reading Ronstar. You'll get to:
    Now don't mistake tangential wound with entrance or exit wound. It means tangential.

    And Dr. Clark stands by his comments months later in his testimony with Arlen Specter.
     
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    Clark never states that the head wound was an exit or entrance wound.

    Its very dishonest to state otherwise.
     
  12. Mike12

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    why didn't RFK find anything then? It was said that he was the most powerful personal other than President kennedy with friends in high places..

    as far as the SS stuff, this is so absurd that it's beyond ridiculous..

    The secret service LOVED Kennedy; THEY WORSHIPPED this young vigorous president who they protected and hanged out with all the time. To believe that they were in some conspiracy is just paranoid and based on nothing more than an obsession to prove it was a conspiracy

    It has been explained 1,000+ times why the SS took the body with them. Their beloved president was SHOT, they wanted to take him back to Washington, where he BELONGED! not keep in Dallas, a city famous for having Kenney haters and in the hands of people they probably didn't even trust. Has it ever occurred to you conspiracy NUTS that maybe the SS was also concerned with a conspiracy? and didn't trust anyone in Dallas? and just wanted to take the president back to Washington? where RFK would meet them and a place where they felt safer? This doesn't even remotely cross your nutcase minds does it? What about Jackie? was she gonna wait around in Dallas too? The SS did what you yourself and every other conspiracy NUT would've done - take their beloved president back where he belonged, out of a city they didn't trust, take him back to his home and get Jackie out of Dallas. This is so logical, reasonable that i would estimate 99% of you conspiracy nuts would've done the same thing had you been in the SS.

    Lastly, they just didn't snatch the body, sure there was an initial scuffle but the Dallas county district attouney was phoned and he agreed to it in the end. I believe someone from Dallas even accompanied the body; this was part of the agreement.

    it's all absurd, and you guys need to stop constantly pointing to nothing as proof of anything.
     
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    I have a feeling YOU think they were....
     
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    Look up Texas law in 1963. I'm not going to do your homework for you.
     
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    There could be many reasons that RFK didn't find anything. Maybe he was threatened. Maybe LBJ, who hated him, wouldn't allow him to do anything. There's even some who believe that he was going to reopen the investigation if he won the presidency in '68 which could have been a reason he was killed too. But you can't tell me the Attorney General of the country and brother of the slain president didn't have some inside knowledge of suspicious activity. I also find it interesting that it was John Kerry who spoke up recently about a conspiracy. The same John Kerry who had a very close relationship with Ted Kennedy.

    As for the SS, I'm not saying they were all involved. Just like I'm not saying all of the CIA was involved. But I do think there could have been rogue members. And you can come up with all the reasons in the world for their behavior and the behavior of the military which was also there. The fact of the matter is that it was an illegal act. His autopsy should have been done in Dallas and without any interference from others and no generals ordering the doctors what to do.

    This was a coup d'etat. During a time when the United States was coup-ing other countries left and right. From Iran to Guatamala, to Chile, to the Philippines, etc. If you don't believe that's possible, then look up United States Marine Corps Major General and two time Medal of Honor recipient Smedley D. Butler. In 1933, he told a congressional committee that he was approached by some very wealthy people (including Prescott Bush) to help plan a military coup and overthrow FDR. This was the most decorated military officer ever. Not some nut. Clearly, this kind of thing isn't out of the blue sky. There are some messed up people in high up places and it's our job to find out when they're being honest and when they're taking advantage of their positions.
     
  16. 9/11 was an inside job

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    Dont forget to mention not withdrawing your revolver from your vest like kellerman didnt, along with taking steps to protect the vice president covering him but not covering the president also considered standard secret service training by them as well instead of treason.:roflol:

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    definetly the understatement of the century.:thumbsup:

    stands up and gives standing ovation.:clapping:

    magic bullet theorists everytime they are cornered and outed,cant ever admit when they are wrong knowing they can hide behind the computer.they have to post lies to try and save face in defeat.
     
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    thats because he has failed since day one to prove it.hee hee.

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    thats why the magic bullet theorists on here refuse to watch it.hee hee.
     
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    you got to love the warped logic of the magic bullet theorists who believe in magic bullets dont you?:roflol::roll:

    thats what I have said here a million times only to watch them act like it never got posted evading that fact changing the subject everytime.you hit the nail right on the head and took the words right out of my mouth, you must have been reading my mind.:thumbsup::salute::worship:
     
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    somehow everytime we say look at what the witnesses and doctors said,they cowardly run away with their tail between their legs changing the subject everytime they are cornered with these pesky little facts.ever notice that?:roll::roflol:
     
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    yeah thats the understatement of the century.

    yeah you are so correct,even that doesn't work for the magic bullet theorists and will never be satisifed no matter what kind of government operations people come forward because yeah,you and myself and brother jonathan have brought that up about E Howard Hunt confessing he was in dallas as part of a CIA operation that Nixon and Johnson particated in it and SOMEHOW,even though he was a covert operations officer in the CIA and did work for Nixon who ran covert operations as vice president under Eisenhower,THATS not proof enough. Its not proof either that one of Nixons aides -I think it was Bob Haldeman,wrote a book about it saying that he always wondered why Nixon always was so obsessed with the bay of pigs invasion during watergate always talking about Hunt being a loose end,that they had to pay him off with hush money or the whole damn bay of pigs thing might come up.

    Haldeman wondered WHY Nixon would be so corcerned with they bay of pigs so much when it had nothing to do with watergate but he finally figured it out saying Nixon was obsessed with that mentioned Hunts name because Hunt was involved in the bay of pigs and that what Nixon was REALLY referring to when he said bay of pigs thing,was the KENEDY ASSASSINATION thing.I guess Bob Aldeman like E Howard hunt accroding to their warped minds is a nutcase and not credible either.:roflol:
     
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    But its not. Do some introspection. And try not to be a liar next time because all the information you accept is officialdom.
     
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    evade when cornered.:roflol: thats the biggest lie ever posted on this thread.the dallas doctors have gone to many conferences over the years in dallas saying the government continues to lie and have said MANY tiems over the years they all saw the entire head of his head gone and that the photos at the autopsy were fake since they looked NOTHING at all like what they saw.how pathetic.:roflol:
     
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    :clapping::thumbsup::woot::worship::worship:
    Wow,the guy never gets tired of getting his arse handed to him on a platter.

    yeah thats really haveing an objective,NON BIASED search for the truth autopsy being done having GENERALS and ADMIRALS direct the autopsy tellling you whats allowed and not allowed.

    some people never get tired of having egg all over their face obviously.:roflol:

    I was talking about that with my friend the other day and he said-yeah its so obvious it was the government.anybody who thinks otherwise is an idiot. thats what HE said.hee hee.which is what any RATIONAL person with logic and common sense would concluse as well obviously.hee hee.
     
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    the understatement of the century,so very true.:clapping: so very accurate and true this post is.
     
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    thats how you can tell the magic bullet theorists on here have absolute no intererest whatsover in seeking the truth the fact so many laws were violated that day by the secret service and military and nobody got fired for the treason they committed.

    thats why nobody should argue with the magic bullet theorists here,they have no interest in the truth whatsoever as they have demonstrated thoughout this entire thread blatantly ignoring that the warren commission altered their testimonys, a CRIME itself they should have all gone to jail for as well as harrassing and intimidating witnesses ignoring witness testimonys not calling many of them who had a version differen than their own.

    they humilate themselves here everyday with egg on their faces constantly.they would be laughed out of a courroom in seconds is they talked this kind of b.s there like they do here.:roll::roflol:
     
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