Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There was no truth to Jim Garrisons case which is why he lost and Clay Shaw was found not guilty. This is not because of " higher ups " it is because of a jury of average Americans who saw that Garrison had no evidence to prove the man guilty. It was a shameful abuse of prosecutorial power.

    It takes a flip of a body to examine the wound in detail. They did not examine it they only made very casual and quick obervations which proves nothing.
    The autopsy proved them wrong
     
  2. Brother Jonathan

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    Only to people who believe in Santa Claus.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    are you going to refute his claim or just insult him?
     
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    Ronstar that was not meant as an insult. It is a point of fact. It is well known that the JFK autopsy was a fraud. Earl Warren did not even let the rest of the members of the Warren Commission even see the autopsy photographs. If one still believes that the JFK autopsy was real then they likely believe in the tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny because none of them are real. If the truth is an insult then truth must also be treason.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not being able to distinguish between "truth" and just a petty insult, is one reason why conspiracy theorists always end up being ignored.
     
  6. Brother Jonathan

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    I guess I do assume too much. I thought everyone knew that the JFK autopsy was a fraud. My apologies. I did not intend to insult anyone with the truth.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why was it a fraud?

    because it came to conclusions that you disagree with?

    that's not fraud.
     
  8. Brother Jonathan

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    JFK's autopsy is obvious fraud.
     
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    Notice, no evidence... simply repeating the same thing over and over again.

    For his next trick, he will click his heels together three times while saying "There's no place like home".
     
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    First, there were more than 4-5 of them claiming the wound was to the back of the head. Second, something like that isn't something someone would be fuzzy on. Honestly, your conclusion is beyond ridiculous. I don't care if the doctors weren't there to do an autopsy. A doctor, let alone many doctors, knows when he sees a hole in the back of someone's head. How could so many doctors be wrong? And not just doctors. Nurses, Secret Service agents, FBI agents, mortician, etc. at both Parkland and Bethesda. Unbelievable. All it takes is a little common sense.

    http://www.assassinationweb.com/ag6.htm

    http://www.paulseaton.com/jfk/boh/parkland_boh/parkland_wound.htm

    I don't know if this will be deleted for being too graphic, but you can clearly see the opening in the back of his head. For Christ's sake. Just open your eyes and look. And while you're at it, please explain the scalpel-ing of his forehead.

    jfk03clr.JPG
     
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    comedy gold ramblings as well to no surprise.notice how he CONVIENETELY also forgets to mention that the autopsy photos have been proven to be faked and the fact that they were NOTHING like what the dallas doctors saw,that they said his entire back of his head was gone,and that while they were not convinced Shaw was guilty,they WERE convinced he was killed as a conspiracy and ALSO forgets to mention that former deputy CIA director later admitted clay shaw did indeed work for the CIA/ comedy gold as always.:roflol::clapping:


    someone is getting desperate.:roflol:

    like you said,apparently,the magic bullet theorists must still believe in santa clause as well.hee hee.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    well any SERIOUS researcher knows that the autopsy was a fraudas proven by the statements of the dallas doctors.
     
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    excellent job taking him to school.you win the game..he has been checkmated by you with you being the clear winner here.now THAT photo is what the dallas doctors saw and said they saw.not the fake one they like to show with the back of his head intace and a small size hole in it.they just cant handle the truth that this photo is what they saw and that other one they like to show is fake.some just like to live in denial and are too afriad to face facts.:roflol:
     
  14. Mike12

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    you make these baseless statements whilst i actually quoted for you what these doctors said, including direct quotes where they even admitted they were wrong on some initial account and that they didn't spend time thoroughly analyzing the wounds. NOT ALL OF THEM said the same thing, which shows that they just weren't looking carefully. One of them even said he thought autospy pics were ACCURATE.

    So, #1. their statements were not consistent #2 they all reiterated they never checked the back and didn't analyze wounds carefully cause their immediate focus was on a rescusitation and keeping a pulse going.

    THERE IS A REASON that the Warren Commission AND House select commitee of assassinations didn't find their statements credible or as evidence of anything.

    As far as the autopsy pic you show, i see a wound on the side of his head, consistent with everything we have seen from zapruder and other autopsy pics. The head shot entered from the back and came out Kennedy's side, blowing skull and scalp outwards; he had a massive wound on his side. I'm not sure how you can even see the back given we CAN'T SEE THE BACK. Stop always seeing what YOU WANT to see and see what's actually there. Your claims make no sense, if the exit wound was on the back, where the fuukk is the entry wound? DO YOU SEE ANY on the front of his head???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    An autopsy is what everyone depends on for answers but of course, since it totally destoys your crazy claims, we are to ignore the autopsy and use the inconsistent statements from attending doctors.
     
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    i should clarify that it was in the 70's that deputy CIA director Rirhard Helms said Shaw worked for them.

    The magic bullet theorists always ignore as well how the warren commisssion committed treason altering witnesses testimonys which they should have all gone to jail for .

    the magic bullet theorists can only whine and cry in defeat getting more and more desperate all the time time posting things to try and save face in defeat claming there has been no proof by us there was a conspiracy all the time, while they constantly fail to prove oswald did it.:roflol::-D
     
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    the magic bullet theorists as we both know,would be laughed out of a debating hall in a minute if they tried to take their laughable debating skills there saying the the things there they say here all the time blatantly ignoring facts that prove them wrong like they do here.they wouldnt last ONE minute and would be laughed out in that timeframe as well within one minute.:roflol:
     
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    Oh yes. The autopsy where generals were telling the doctors what to do. The autopsy where the doctor burned his initial notes. Let's rely on that. And you want quotes? Check the links I posted because clearly you didn't the first time. There are many quotes there. And like I posted a few days ago, many doctors and witnesses still claim the hole was in the back. They haven't changed their statements. The Warren Commission didn't even interview most of them. And how about the mortician? You don't think he'd notice? You can attack me all you want, it's not going to change that.

    Turn your head to the left and look at that photo. That hole you see isn't on the side. It starts on the side/rear and continues around the back. Again, his cerebellum fell out of his head during the tracheotomy.

    And since you didn't address it, the scalpel-ing of his forehead was done because that's likely where the bullet hole was.
     
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    you have ZERO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE that the autopsy was controlled by sinister military people who wanted to hide anything. This is what you guys do, use cheap tricks to attempt to discredit HARD EVIDENCE. Do you realize how easy it is to just say 'It was fabricated; it was under CIA/Military control;it was planted;they were coerced to say that' everytime hard evidence is presented to you? It's so cheap and lazy but that's your A game and always has been. In the absence of evidence, just discredit everything without any evidence to support it.

    If you watch the Zapruder film, Kennedy's left side was destroyed, scalp all over the place.

    Check this drawing of the bullet trajectory, notice how the bullet entered from the back, came out out of his side and opened up a huge wound around the back-middle area of his right side. Now if you take this same drawing and align it with your photo, they are entirely consistent. A person lying on his back with a wound as illustrated below, would look exactly how Kennedy looks in the photo you provided. You would see a huge wound on his side, closer to the back of his head and be able to see through it. JUST LOOK, this would extends to the back!.. and brain would be coming out with a wound of this nature, just as doctor's described.

    250px-JFK_skull_trajectory.jpg
     
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    HSCA autopsy review:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_autopsy


    how do you discredit the above? HSCA was also under government control? all these experts with all that experience frauds?
     
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    And you have zero evidence to support that the doctors were lying when they said that the military was controlling the autopsy. I showed you a real photo with the back of his head blown out and you want to show me a drawing. You're not even worth arguing with.
     
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    says who?
     
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    lol, this is when you accept you have nothing. I showed you an officila drawing of the nature of the wounds so that you see the bullet trajectory and how the photo you posted is consistent with it. I also showed you how thorough the HSCA investigation was and you totally ignored it. They had a forensic pathology team examine the evidence, a team comprised of 9 members who had performed 100,000 autopsies! They had all sorts of experts verufy the athenticity of the photographs and no matter how hard they tried, couldn't discredit the autopsy.As part of the investigation, they also talked to the very same doctors you list and came to one conclousion - shot from the back!
     
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    Watch "Executive Action"
    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbF5him-EF8[/video]
     
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    Once again, you do all the things you accuse others of doing. Compare the picture I posted with the picture of just the back of his head and you'll see the inconsistency. Funny how testimony only works when it suites your argument yet anytime I bring any of it up, the people are crazy or mistaken somehow. That's why it's not worth arguing with you about. You can't argue with irrational people. I have plenty more ammo for you but since you don't even want to listen and prefer ridiculing people, it's not worth going any further. You argue like a 5 year old. If you believe everything the government tells you and you believe everything you hear from mainstream media because it makes you feel safe, that's your choice. I, on the other hand prefer to look at things with an open mind and not swallow the **** shoveled down my throat by people who have been proven to have lied to us before.
     
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    No to anyone with a brain.

    Once again you ignore that the doctors you quote state exactly what I am saying.

    Or are you claiming Clay Shaw was convicted?
     
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