Insured 20 year old man stuck with $11,000 hospital bill

http://www.viralnova.com/hospital-bill/

This is the sorta thing that happens in this (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up pro-market healthcare system. We could be paying just a couple extra hundred dollars in our taxes and get all of our hospital bills paid for (or at least paid for down to triple digits so a hospital bill isn't any more harmful than an auto mechanic bill.) But instead we have a system that shoves this kind of cost on a 20 year old kid.

Disgusting and selfish. We need a universal healthcare system. The rest of the world is laughing at us.

 

And without insurance it would have been at least 50k .


Anyways , a better plan would have helped .

 

And with a government insurance plan like so many other developed nations have it would have been a couple hundred dollars in his taxes.

 

More taxation is simply not acceptable.

 

How can you put a price on your health or life for that matter?

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Mandatory insurance most can't afford and a deductible that is just as unfathomable isn't the answer either.

Just get sick and die when you run out of cash like God intended life to be, that's the ticket.

 

More lib promises?

Obama made some big promises that turned out to be lies.

It's safer to assume that government will make things worse.

 

Taxcutter says:
And my taxes and 150 million other people's taxes. Not acceptable,.

the old song goes:

"...politicians say mo' taxes will solve everything
and the band played on..."

If you can fund this by cutting free stuff (like SNAP, Section Eight Housing, or Energy Assistance) it would be at least neutral. but more taxes are simply unacceptable.

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Taxcutter says:
Good. We agree. Repeal ObamaTax.

 

Absolutely. The Bob Dole/Heritage Foundation mandatory insurance scheme is a failure on so many levels, especially when progressives nitwits adopted it as a cure all.

 

What does it matter. Either you pay the government or you pay the insurance company a whole lot more.

 

Taxcutter says:
I trust the insurance company a lot more than the government.

 

I'd rip up the bill and just ignore it. When time finally came declare bankruptcy so they nothing. Like this person did.

 

Why? Government is made up of people elected by the people or appointed by people elected by the people. Insurance companies are where people who figure out how to squeeze the most money out of sick people rise to the top.

 

There is no consequence for failure in government.

Once in a while an elected office gets voted out of office but civil servants get paid the same no matter how incompetent they are.

The insurance company otoh has to make a profit which means they have to get it right.

 

The definition for failure is different. In insurance companies failure is not squeezing every dime they could out of you. In government failure is not providing the amount of service they could have.

 

No, not if I remain healthy. And if get sick or injured, it's not my neighbors responsibility to pay my bills, it's mine. And in real life, hospitals have more than financed their fair share of hardship cases, so framing the argument for more government control around ONE twenty year old owing 11K isn't going to cut it.

 

Why is it not your neighbor's responsibility to provide you healthcare but it is to find and arrest someone who robs your house or to put out a fire in your house?

 

Why? What is the purpose of taxes?

(Not a trick question)

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Then why even have health insurance? Pay everything yourself.

 

This is what I just don't understand. If raising taxes would provide us with a cheaper and better service much like other developed nations have and love and much like medicare recipients have and love then why is it a bad thing?

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Exactly. That's what health insurance is. Your neighbors paying for your medical bills.

 

Originally? To pay for government's constitutional duties to which redistribution of wealth was not included because it was deemed unconstitutional until Progressives entered government.

 

Why not?

 

I have Anthem , the federal plan and the last 11 days of my wifes life cost me 9800.00 out of pocket , not to mention the couple of years in and out of hospitals and nursing homes , luckily I had money saved up and a small insurance policey and I still owe a couple thousand over a year later , I do know something has to be done , The ACA is horrid , maybe private non prifit insurance is a thought?

 

Promoting the general welfare is a constitutional duty. Health care falls under that realm of service, right along with our energy and infrastructure.

 

How come all the other first-world industrial democracies can have mandatory health-insurance that everyone can afford with no deductables?

 

Why beat around the bush though? What is so bad about public healthcare? It works just fine with medicare.

I trust the government to protect my household if I need to call the cops. I trust the government to put out fires in my house. I trust the government to educate my children. I trust the government to pave the roads to my work and for all the trucks to deliver goods to my local businesses. I trust the government to take care of the poor and elderly.

What exactly is so bad about trusting the government with one more thing? Something so life and death. Something no one should ever be making a profit off of.

 

You must be wearing some serious rose colored glasses to think that if government were to take over providing insurance or care, that these issues would be gone.

We will ignore stories like this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-trainee-surgeons-removed-OVARY-appendix.html

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/12/20131210-135800.html


Good lord. Your irrational disgust of "greed" clouds your objective view.

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LOL at the idea that healthcare can be provided for "hundreds" of dollars.

Not thousands. Hundreds.

Think about that for a second. You think that a 20 year old should be able to get health insurance for a couple hundred dollars.

What universe do you ideologues live in?