Why Hate Rich People?

So...you're okay with paying higher percentage of your income when you make less? Especially when you make less, you don't exactly have a lot of economic freedom?

Your rhetoric is completely absurd and is a thin distortion of the issue. As well, I've gotten into this discussion before...but a coal miner sacrificing his body for pennies on the dollar compared to the guy who owns and sells the coal, who is really working harder? The guy that's going to die of cancer, who sweats all day, getting dirty and swinging a pickaxe around, or the guy that's on the phone and computer making 100x that other guy? Who do you think, if the pay was equal, would be more willing to switch jobs with the other?

 

it's really who is doing the hating or loathing..

when i got rich my family all wanted a piece of it..

 

i think that after one makes a million bucks a year than 75% of the next batch of money should be taxed…

this would cause those of us that love money to really try harder to make more…improving the economy all round…and pay for the social systems i love…
unfortunately if the Republicans were given that amount of taxes they would spend it on the limitary economy and more people would die in illegal Republican wars

 

to a republican even a poor one with no medical insurance it makes total sense...

 

Are either of the bottom rich?

A man with a $175,000 salary and $125 in his bank account: or

A man with a $40,000 salary and $410,000 in his bank account

 

And you, sir/madame, failed to answer my simple question.

 

The poor pay taxes. Make no mistake. Buying gas, buying things, taxes are there. When they pay rent on their (*)(*)(*)(*)ty apartment, that money goes towards taxes of the building/land owner.

You simplify the issue to much. Everyone pays. Everyone.

 

And the high taxes in blue states is your problem. Not mine.

 

Look at florida. They pay zero state taxes and started refusing federal taxes. Watch that place burn.

Taxes keep up your standards. Stop (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing. I mean, I can give a million analogies to try and get you to understand the importance of taxes, but your dogma will always 'trump' it by failing to even regard anything I'm saying with an ounce of humility. Taxes get (*)(*)(*)(*) done for the population. Not paying taxes gives you an extra couple of bucks to play with, that doesn't go into the things you take for granted and then you'll (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about those things sucking ass later down the road.

 

Florida burn?

You must be angry.
To suggest a tourist trap as Florida will
Burn.

 

My girlfriend is from Florida and visits regularly. She's said everytime she's gone back since their last Governor took office, it's been (*)(*)(*)(*)tier and (*)(*)(*)(*)tier and it's primarily because he's refusing to take federal funding in addition to not having any stable state funding.

Taxes keep your country from falling apart. Once we're both in agreement on that, we can proceed to talk about tax policies and how to streamline and make them better and more efficient. Until then, you're pointless to argue with.

 

And your point is?

She lives in Florida and spends money

Why don't she live in Illinois?

 

And what is it you and taxes anyways?

Did you get anything out of the 7 trillion Obama spent in just 5 years?

I sure as hell didn't.

 

She doesn't live in Florida. *sigh* Please re-read the post you quoted. She's from Florida, lives in Cali (with me) and visit there frequently to see her parents. She doesn't live in Illinois because she has no desire to.

 

both are richer then half the country... but with nothing more to go on, my guess is.... I would call the second one upper middle class, the first one is making a lot of money, but must spend it as fast as he gets it, probably has rich parents


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Those “Evil, Rich People” – are Democrats
I always wondered about that. I mean most of those millionaires in Hollywood are Democrats. Many of your top athletes are Black and we know most are Democrats. Some of Obama's biggest donors are filthy rich. Most of the millionaires in Congress are Democrats. So I went to look it up and what do you know, most of the rich are Democrats.

Image: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison – Democrats)

From the, “you never hear about that from the media” file – Those “Evil, Rich People” that Democrats are always wailing about are actually – Democrats.

While I don’t agree in referring to rich people as “Evil”, Democrats are often making such accusations. But what most people don’t realize is that the Top 3 “richest” people in the country are all Democrats. This list includes: Bill Gates, Warren Buffett & Larry Ellison are all Democrats. Together, they are worth $126 Billion Dollars.

An analysis of the Top 20 Richest People in America (from Forbes Top 100) reveals that a full 60% are actually Democrats. Furthermore, if you look at it from a “family” point of view and not as individuals, that ratio widens even further to: 25% Republican / 75% Democrat.

(The purpose of this analysis is not who makes the most money, but where they contribute / by party affiliation. Obviously, people from the same family would tend to contribute to the same party.)

Analyzing the data takes us even further. Not only are there more Democrats in the Top 20 list, but those Democrats are a lot more stingy with their money when it comes to campaign contributions. Republicans coughed up $5.2 million while Democrats squirted out only $2.1 Million. These statistics would indicate that the more you have, the less you give to your political party.

Contributions paid to special interest groups are a little harder to track. But we have no reason not to assume that the money these Top 1% of the population contribute to Special Interest groups wouldn’t match (or at least closely match) those of their chosen political affiliation. When you add in the money contributed to these groups, you end up with Republican Contributions at $10 million while Democrats contributed only $6 million. Again, it appears that the Democrats are a bit more stingy with their money.

Lest we not forget, Democrats outweigh Republicans. Not only in terms of the number of uber-millionaires, but also with their net worth. In this Top 20 group, Democrats have a combined net worth of $263.1 billion dollars while the Republicans have a combined net worth of only $143.9 billion dollars – almost half that of Democrats.

So the next time you hear some Liberal try the “Evil Rich Republican” rhetoric, remind them and everyone around you that it is the Democrats who are those “Evil Rich People”, not the Republicans. Then stand back and watch their head spin.



*Correction. In the attached chart, Christy Walton is listed as a Democrat when in fact she is Republican. However, the math was reported correctly.

http://newamericangazette.com/2011/0...ple-democrats/

 

We already know most well educated, wealthy people are actually Democrats.

Unfortunately, the selfish (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s that play the "whoa its me!" rich boy syndrome are selfish Republicans. The Koch Brothers, Pete Peterson, and company. Democratic millionaires don't spend time whining about welfare and how evil the government is for picking on them being rich.

 

And such blue states have higher standards of living -

Higher education, higher income, more parks, better graduation rates, better health / lower obesity, lower rates of teen pregnancy, more millionaires, etc.

There are no free lunches in this world. It is no surprise that the brains in this country are all in "high tax" BLUE LIBERAL STATES - California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois, DC / Maryland / NoVA.

Pay careful attention to the next 10 years. Texas budget has been run into the ground. North Carolina's idiot tea party governor is already pushing the state backwards. Now Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Ohio have been infiltrated via GOP Gerrymandering. They will suffer similar regression as North Carolina is on the path to.

Conservatism fails at everything. The statistics can't be any more clear.

 

Cou;d that be because the South has 52% of the Black population and they have the highest number of fatherless births, a high dropout rate and are poorer? Do you think that would help the North and hurt the South?

 

Lets also not forget, where the major points of entry are in most of those states and where the majority of people settled. Which brought on more industry, schools and wealth. Lets also remember that for years there was no A/C down South and little industry. Industry really didn't get started in the South until there was A/C. There are a lot of reasons for the difference between the two that has nothing to do with Party.

 

Right, so we know Democrats are richer and also stingy with their money. They are the ones the Left are complaining about and thinking they are Republicans.

'Evil' Koch brothers just 59th on top political donation list

By Rick Moran
February 15, 2014

Sometimes, if you listen to some Democrats, they're running against the "Evil" Koch brothers rather than a specific Republican candidate.

The brothers that liberals like to hate are often trotted out as prime examples of why campaign finance reform is necessary. They are often portrayed as one of the biggest contributors to political candidates, their evil money financing evil Republicans.

The group OpenSecrets.com has compiled a list of top donors to candidates and, to the left's surprise, the Koch brothers are far down the list.

Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/it-tur...rticle/2544025

Charles and David Koch are the two most evil people in American politics, right? We know that because Jane Mayer proved it with her landmark "Covert Operations" tour de liberal force in 2010.

Well, it turns out that Mayer's aim was off just a little, by like 58 slots on the all-time biggest donors in American politics list, as compiled by OpenSecrets.org.

OpenSecrets.org tallied the top donors in federal elections between 1989 and 2014. Koch Industries -- privately owned by the Evil Koch Bros -- is on the list, to be sure, but doesn't appear until the 59th slot, with $18 million in donations, 90 percent of which went to Republicans.

Unions, unions, unions

So who occupies thSix of the top 10 are ... wait for it ... unions. They ge 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? ave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats.

These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros.

Wall Street and Act Blue, too

Three of the remaining four slots in the top 10 were taken by AT&T ($56.4 million), National Association of Realtors ($51.2 million) and Goldman Sachs ($44.8 million).

So, if money is the measure of evil in American politics and the Evil Koch Bros only come in 59th, who is really the most evil donor ever?

Turns out it's Act Blue, with just short of $100 million in contributions during its lifetime, which only started in 2004, 15 years after the Evil Koch Bros in the OpenSecrets.org compilation.

Any bets on when Mayer's "Covert Operations II: Act Blue" will appear in the New Yorker?


Although it pains me to be fair, I should point out that the Koch brothers also contribute tens of millions of dollars to the GOP cause indirectly through their independent committees Americans for Prosperity and others. Also to be fair, I should point out that unions spent a half a billion dollars in such indirect spending in the 2012 election cycle.

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Read more:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...tion_list.html

 

You conveniently failed to factor in the income tax. I'm retired and I pay more income tax than the poor or the middle class. That is a fact. I also pay the same taxes you listed for the poor. I say this to address your statement that the rich should pay their fair share. Do you think the government gets it's billions from the poor?

 

I never said it did. It gets it's billions from the middle class primarily. They still pay more than than millionaires in terms of percentage. This is why you hear terms like, 'balance the budget on the general population'.

Basically, it's like this: If our billionaires paid 30% effective tax rate on their yearly earnings, we could generate about as much money as 1/3 of all other tax payers. That's a huge increase in revenue. The upside to this increase in taxes is those guys would still be billionaires. There's no downside.

 

The downside is when the billionaires leave and don't invest, that's the downside, we should be the nicest and most welcoming to the super elite.

 

I don't agree. We should treat them just as we treat all others. If they want to leave, that's fine. But if they're going to operate here, we shouldn't be bending over backwards to make them happy. After all, they're millionaire/billionaires. We can't really do much to them by way of being fair to make them any less of such a title and privilege.