Why Hate Rich People?

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Ever since I was a child I have heard people say critical things about rich people just because people perceived the wealthy had money. It didn't matter that a rich man had come from humble beginnings and started a small business that one day provided many jobs for others. It didn't seem to matter that the rich man went to church, donated to charities, contributed to the community, and helped others. It didn't matter if the rich man was honest in his dealings. If he lived in a big home and drove a fancy car he was condemned by some. I still see that today. Look how the media and others condemned Mitt Romney due to his wealth. Is it just plain jealousy or what is it? Can anyone explain why they dislike a wealthy person?
     
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    Plain old envy.
     
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    Jealousy. They drink that Hater-Aid.
     
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    Even more strange is the fact that you can read right here on the PF liberals citing the blue states (liberal ruled) as being the most successful over Red states when in fact the reason for that is those evil rich people running businesses are in the blue states like here in the land of Massachusetts and many of us like myself work for those evil rich people who pay me well and in turn I put back into the economy here by buying things because I have surplus. It appears liberals hate rich people but the reality tells us they congregate around those evil businesses rife with the very rich people they despise.
     
  5. REPUBLICRAT

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    I'm sure there are people out there who dislike the wealthy simply because they're jealous. However, i think the issue is much more the fact that wealthy keep doing better and better while the rest of the citizens are doing worse and worse. Many Americans want that trend to change. It would be good for our country if it did too. It's not hard to understand how Americans would be upset about the fact that people who already live comfortable are seeing their bank accounts get bigger while there's get smaller. You can call it envy. It is inevitable envy though. It is only a natural reaction by those who aren't wealthy to huge percentage of the country getting worse off financially, while a very small percentage prosper. They believe there's something very wrong with that. They're right too.
     
  6. Just A Man

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    And the poor people who despise rich people are always buying lottery tickets hoping to win $$$ millions. It does sound as tho it's envy. So come on liberals, tell us here on this thread why you hate rich people.
     
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    Why devote your life to making them richer?
     
  8. Just A Man

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    If wealthy are doing better and the poor are doing worse -- what do you propose? If some are worse off financially while a small percentage are doing better, and you say that is wrong, then tell me why it's wrong? What do you propose to change that?
     
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    Why is it bad for our country that only people who already live comfortably are seeing things improve for them? Are you serious?
     
  10. Just A Man

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    I'm dead serious. Please enlighten me. I'm not wanting an argument. I just want to understand how some folks think it's bad for someone to improve their standard of living.
     
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    You are yet another confused person.
     
  12. Just A Man

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    I'm hoping you may have the writing and communicating skills to un-confuse me.
     
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    No. You've misunderstood apparently. I want everyone to prosper if possible. If I have a choice between people who don't need more money getting more money and people who do need more money getting it, I believe it's better for our country if the people who need it get it. With me?
     
  14. Just A Man

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    That is wishful thinking. It may be noble but it's not reality. Why not wish for all citizens to me millionaires. It would be the same thing. If I'm working hard and just getting by and my neighbor is prospering then I might want to do what he's doing. But I wouldn't begrudge him doing well even if I was left behind. People get wealthy because they make financial plans well into the future. Some people will never do well because they only plan for the next weekend and being off work. That is reality.
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    I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why they hate rich people.
     
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    It's not someone being rich that ticks people off

    It's rich people getting richer at the expense of the rest of us.

    examples;

    The rich get richer by demanding exhorbtant returns on investments. This takes money out of teh company that could be used for raises, expansion (more jobs), and improvement of product (more sales).

    The rich get richer by using media (which they can afford easily) to push lies about th economy, make false promises (job creators) , buy political hacks, and push legislation the enriches them even more.

    The rich get richer by legalizing extorsion techniques that used to get Mafia people thrown in prison. Instead of )Gimme the money or I'll break your &%#$*!! legs" we get "Give me more money, or I'll break your company"

    THAT is what people hate. The fact that the entire system is rigged towards the wealthy, and the rest of us are falling further behind.
     
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    I do notice some people seem to care more about the rich making too much than the poor making too little

    to me the rich making more money does not matter so long as the poor are making more money, if there's a circumstance where taxing the rich more will help the poor (like a basic income guarantee) I will support that.. but I am not terribly fond of taxing the rich for the sake of taking money from them. Our ultimate goal in a civilized society is to set a minimum standard of living, not a maximum
     
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    If your theory is correct and the system is rigged against the poor, then how do hundreds of poor people become wealthy every year? Also why do some millionaires go broke?
     
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    Sorry, Just-a-Man...the rich have NOTHING for you...for ALL your butt-kissing.
     
  19. Pregnar Kraps

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    That's just a personal human failing you have.

    Sad to say.

    Thou shalt not covet.

    Or is the Bible outside of your belief system?

    Think about what Reagan said in 1964.

    [video=youtube_share;Ijhre9T_bv4]http://youtu.be/Ijhre9T_bv4[/video]

    Rich people didn't get that way because they stole from the poor.

    That is the basis for Obama's (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)rdly treatment of the business owners in America.

    Why he wanted to impress upon the business owners, "you didn't build that."

    Many, maybe MOST, of the nouveau riche in America came from humble beginnings themselves...in their younger days.
     
  20. REPUBLICRAT

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    My religious belief, or lack thereof is irrelevant. I'm talking politics here. I am actually doing just fine financially myself. I can't complain at all. I know that people cannot support their families making less than $8.00 per hour as well. I think it should be like it was back in the days when minimum wage was enough. You want less entitlements? You got it. Raise the minimum wage.
     
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    I don't think it is wealth alone that causes so many rich people to be disliked; instead, I think it's more of a matter of conduct and how their generating wealth.

    In terms of conduct, one great example is the new status symbol "job creator." I say status symbol because economically speaking, the middle class is the center of the economic universe. Economies grow and shrink by high volume and not single item production. At the end of the day, a super rich person is only going to need so many beds, so many drinks, so much food, and so forth. They don't go out and buy 200 million tvs that are necessary to keep volume high and the economy moving. But one wouldn't know that by watching some rich people advocate themselves on TV. They advocate policies that damage the middle class, and they do it for something as silly as status. In addition, they pump so much money into the political system that the average American is simply priced out of politics. In terms of wealth generation, a lot of people are generating massive wealth by screwing over other people. For example, a CEO is laying off workers while giving himself a big raise and bonus, and at the same time he or she is driving the company into the ground. Everyone along the line is getting screwed but the CEO is making out like a bandit. In addition, a lot of companies influence state to gain unfair advantages in the market. And in many cases, the middle class is the group responsible for financing it through tax payer money.

    In a basic nutshell, the record high inequality should underline why so many rich people are disliked. The record high inequality is a major distortion of the economy, and it doesn't get that way from just good ole hard working Americans. It takes bad actors using systematic methods to screw over a great deal of people to cause that kind of disruption.

    Outside of the above, there are plenty of rich people in the world who don't participate in this behavior. And they are getting screwed over as well.
     
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    Extreme wealth is the embodyment of gluttony, which is a sin. If you are hugely wealthy it means that you have much, much, much more than you need to live well, but still you keep your wealth for you, as if it was a trophy to show how strong are valuable you are. It's an obvious reaction of people towards these persons.

    The thing i do not understand is, why do i have to admire a multibillionaire? Is he better than me? I don't think so... surely he was more lucky than me, and had the right idea at the right time. This however doesn't make him a better person than others, expecially if he uses his wealth to hoard even more wealth, which he doesn't obviously need.
     
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    Where'd you get the idea that minimum wage was once "enough"?

    It never was.

    It was always intended to be a wage that would get workers for low skilled jobs and as they grew in ability and experience and became actually WORTH more money those employees could command a better wage.

    Always was thus. Always will be.

    The poor WANT to move up the ladder.

    Anyone who stays at minimum wage is likely prevented from moving up the ladder by some force beyond that person's control.

    Mental immaturity or incapacity.

    Physical problems.

    Circumstances about their lifestyle...such as college life.

    And so on.

    All minimum wage does is provide a starting point.

    Then it's up to the employee to become a better employee able to get a higher wage if he/she wants it.
     
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    In my opinion, the thing that makes you worth less than a wealthy person is located inside your head.

    You happen to subscribe to the same faulty belief that America is like other parts of the world, where the only way rich people got that way was by stealing from the poor or through some illegality or shady dealings.

    That's what Obama believes.

    That's why his "foreign-ness" should have barred him from the office of the Presidency. His assumptions about America were based on his observations about the third world. They aren't true here but his belief system seems unshakable.

    And you demonstrate that you believe as he does. You demonstrate that quite clearly here.

    I rest my case, your Honor.
     
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    How can your belief system exist in a free society where only the person and the marketplace dictate their level of wealth?

    If they think they 'need' a ZILLION dollars, who (again, in a free society) should be able to tell them that is too much or too little?

    Have you ever considered yourself a closet Commie before now?
     

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