Is it a womans right to put her children up for adoption, without telling the father?

That's pretty messed up under the current conditions.

If child support wasn't mandatory when the woman wants it, then I'd have no objection.

 

When is child support not mandatory?

 

That's what I mean. It shouldn't be mandatory.

 

If a guy cums in a girl, getting pregnant can happen. If girl lets a guy cums in her and no birth control is used, well same outcome.

It is best not to do those things with complete strangers.

Still many states allow adopting for Moms with newborns. The right likes those laws because it helps prevent abortion supposedly.

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Is it always mandatory? I thought it was usually tied to visitation rights.

 

I have no problem with adoption, but i have a serious problem with a Utah Kidnapping for Profit industry.

 

It depends on the state, but in most states, if the woman wants child support, it becomes rather difficult for the man to escape it even with the dropping of visitation rights.

 

I have a recommendation to all men in the USA.

Sign on to the lawsuit as a victim.

It doesnt even matter if your child has been kidnapped or not.

Utah wont be able to prove your lying, because theres no DNA evidence, and the children are hidden.

 

What is stopping the men from adopting the children?

 

The fact that the women don't want them to and the current law is such that the woman's decision in this matter trumps the father's rights.

Seriously, bro, try and get a clue regarding what a thread is about before you make a continuing fool of yourself. Reading the first post usually helps.

 

They werent told. The woman took off to utah and handed their child over.

 

Which begs the question... Why is the father being kept out of the loop. There is a reason why "daddy" doesn't know.

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Same question I wrote to Wolfpack. Why is baby daddy out of the loop?

 

Because the radical feminist lobby has created a situation where a pregnant woman can essentially do anything she damn well pleases and the fathers have zero rights whatsoever.

 

Irrelevant. The father has rights, that are being denied by the State of Utah.

 

Fathers basically get screwed in every which way when it comes to custody rights, divorce, alimony, ect. If women truly wanted equality, it wouldn't be so lopsided. The funny thing is women know it, but they wouldn't dare to give an inch.

 

In reality, how many men are financially able to properly provide for the kids in question here?

There are a lot of them that get all steamed up about their "rights" but as time passes they couldn't care less. I personally know such a case. He hasn't bother to visit his child for the past 3 years, and he lives in the same very small town.

And yes, to deny that there is a good reason for these woman to go to Utah to give birth without the sperm donor's knowledge is again being unrealistic.

To say that the pregnant woman is kidnapping her child is the height of ignorance.

 

Just because you personally know a scumbag doesn't mean all men are.

 

You didn't address my question.

 

HALF OF CHILD SUPPORT IS UNCOLLECTED in this country right now and we want to give 'unwed' fathers custodial and SOLE ECONOMIC power over children MOST no doubt didn't want in the first place (if they really didn't want any, they could have put on a CONDOM)??? WTF??

 

so if the deadbeat dad gave up us his parental rights, you think he should not have to pay child support either? just like the deadbeat mom

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It's just a 'lil thing called the law. You can't kidnap a fetus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law

 

It doesn't matter what I think.....

If the deadbeat dad signed away his parental rights, that's it. He no longer has any rights (visitation or whatever),or financial responsibilities and obligations to that child. Same w/the mother if she signed away her parental rights...

If it's an open adoption where it's (usually) the mother who wants to stay in touch w/her child altho raised by another couple, she's not obligated for any financial support to the child. She's only allowed visitation at certain times and that's it..... and as time goes by, the visits become less and less until the bio parent just fades away....

This happened to a friend & husband who went thru open adoption to get their son.......

 

Good grief.... and b/f you know it, the fetus is born a tiny little baby. And it's put up for adoption w/o the bio father's knowledge or permission....

 

First of all it's actually 1/3rd. http://highlandstoday.com/hi/local-...4-billion-owed-to-custodial-parents-20131220/

2nd of all, that is a misleading statistic because that only involves court-ordered child support payments. It does not include the responsible fathers who are taking care of their children financially without being forced to by a court.

3rd of all, WTF does your bogus stat even have to do with the issue at hand?

 

Takes two to Tango ( not going to get more into it that that i will let one of your parents explain the birds and the bees)

 

More than likely, mother and father is not married. If the father did have rights and they were not married, then hat would mean the father would have the potential liability to pay child support to the mother of the child.