Is it a womans right to put her children up for adoption, without telling the father?

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  1. smallblue

    smallblue Well-Known Member

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    These men want the child to go to them instead of being adopted so they can collect a bigger welfare check each month.
     
  2. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they need to be cautious setting precedents.

    When you see a father have no role or right in a situation like this....it becomes hard to assign them responsibility for children. You can't allow a Woman to make decisions like this and not involve the father...but at the same talk about finaincial responsibility from fathers. Either fathers share a 50% responsibility to their children or they dont...across the board.
     
  3. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Talk about small-minded and unrealistic..... What about the woman who's willing? You must be a woman......

    It takes 2 to procreate and married or not, a father should be allowed the right to raise his own flesh and blood, even if the mother doesn't want to.....
     
  4. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. Seems today the only "right" a Man has with regards to children is to keep writing checks. Women it seems can abort them, or give them away with or wihtout his knowledge or approval.

    but dont dare think about not paying each week....its a Mans responsibility to his kids....
     
  5. LivingNDixie

    LivingNDixie New Member

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    Nope. These Fathers are not suing because they don't want anything to do with these women after they slept with them.

    And having Unknown as father is done a lot in situations where a girl doesn't know the guy or doesn't want to publicly reveal it.
     
  6. Junkieturtle

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    Since the child is already born, it's my belief that both parents need to be involved in the adoption process. However, if the father is not taking custody, or has been prevented by law because he's a deadbeat or violent or whatever, then I think the situation would need to be weighed in court. If the father is making no effort and only denying the adoption to spite the ,mother, then I don't think he should be able to do that. But on the flipside, if the father is involved and it's the mother who doesn't want anything to do with the kids, then the father should get custody before any adoption considerations happen.

    It's only during the actual pregnancy that the mother should have sole control over the outcome of the child. Once born, it's no longer just her decision because now responsibility for the child falls on both parents.
     
  7. Habana

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    So where was the women in all these lustful affairs" you speak of? I guess the women are not responsible for their own actions.
     
  8. Hummingbird

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    Holy cow..... I take it you're dead serious?
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. If the father wanted to be a part of the baby's life, he would have stuck around.

    Mothers shouldn't have to cater to deadbeat dads.
     
  10. myview

    myview Well-Known Member

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    Why is all the blame on the man? It takes two. A woman could have kept her legs closed.
     
  11. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Hullo? Anyone home in there? If the father is unknown, then there's no father to contact to sign a document giving up parental rights and agreeing to adoption for child.....
     
  12. paco

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    Why, they were legitimately raped, of course.
     
  13. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so you think all women are innocents who would never think of having a lustful affair w/their good looking neighbor, or brother-in-law, or boss or coworker or doctor or her husband's best friend or.........

    What planet did you come from?
     
  14. FreshAir

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    morally.. no

    legally.. yes

    unless the father takes action to prove he is the father

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    the women is just as much of a deadbeat if she gives her child away with no intention of ever paying child support
     
  15. Hummingbird

    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    There are women out there who keep having kids who have different fathers to increase their welfare checks.......

    You DO know that, don't you?
     
  16. Hummingbird

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    I guess not. According to 'smallube' - the woman is just a meek little thing who doesn't know whether to say 'yes' 'no' or 'maybe' and she gets pg anyway.......

    Every adult is responsible for their own body. If the woman doesn't want to get pregnant, it's her responsibility to make sure she doesn't and it's the same w/the guy if he doesn't want kids.... it's called birth control.
     
  17. Hummingbird

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    Well, she slept w/the deadbeat and had his kid.........
     
  18. Hummingbird

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    Huh? If a woman gives her child away, which is adoption, she gives up all parental rights and it's the adoptive parents who has the financial responsibility to support the child........

    Unless it's an open adoption, she doesn't see the child again until he/she turns 18........
     
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    And the women should have kept their legs shut, but pregnancies happen so no you haven't "solved" anything.

    AFAIC, if a woman wants to put a child up for adoption, the father should be made aware and he should have "first rights of refusal" (so to speak), period, end of discussion. If she kept the child he would have visitation rights (as well as financial obligations), so why do his rights disappear for an adoption?

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    More completely uncalled for misogyny from the left. No surprise.
     
  20. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    So you too, think kidnapping is cool?

    is this a progressive thing or just you?

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    "unknown" fathers is a lie, and never should be allowed.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Ill take that as a yes.
     
  22. LivingNDixie

    LivingNDixie New Member

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    Well actually if a woman sleeps with enough people in a certain timeframe, unknown is completely reasonable.
     
  23. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    and then like smallblue suggests, its all the guys fault, and he doesnt deserve even the option of raising his child....
     
  24. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    The way I see it, if a guy has to worry about being on the hook for child support no matter what decision the woman makes, and the guy has no say in whether she has an abortion or not, he should at least have a say in adoption.

    Ideally, the opposite would be true. Men shouldn't be forced into child support, while a woman could still retain the right to have abortions or put kids up for adoption without the man interfering.

    Freedom of choice is usually the best possible option.
     
  25. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    none of those stipulations are in the op.

    a woman can get up take the kid and give em away, and the guy has no say, and cant get their child back.

    You could even be married and she could drive to utah and hand the kids over to someone else.

    There are 30 men sueing the crap outta utah.

    Do you think its smart to pass laws knowing lawsuits are going to take all the states money ?
     

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