On what basis do Christians claim that their god is "good"?

He offered his daughters to the mob to be raped.
You know, that thing you said never happened.

 

"New Covenant Theology" is not accepted by the vast majority of Christianity. It's roots come from "Montanism" which was declared heretical back in the day.

Even if there was a "new convenant" it does not answer the question of the OP. That God might have changed his mind about his old laws does not explain all the killing that God did back in the day.

What is to stop God from changing his mind back again ? Perhaps he has already done so and not let you know.

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Why is it so common that that the most pious believers know so little about the Book they worship?

Its like an epidemic of sorts.

 

There are 393 uses of the term “forever” and 53 uses of the terms “eternal” and “eternity” in the Bible. But really it just seems to depend on his mood. Like I said god isn't exactly mentally stable individual. Or maybe the Christian god just didn't have a very good grasp on those words.

If Christians actually knew what was in the Bible they would be atheists. But that's one of the good things about Jesus. You can pretty much pick and choose any interpretation of it that you want. And ignore the parts you don't like. Well maybe not "good". More like convenient. Some people even seem to think they can reconcile the Sermon on the Mount with conservatism. Even when Jesus specifically stated that conservatives will be going to Hell. They don't like that part so they just toss it. See how convenient that is?

 

Not only Conservatives but Fundamentalists as well. Mind you almost all Fundees are Conservative so perhaps this is Gods way of killing two birds with one stone ?

 

Gee, that is convenient!

 

snorffles. but yeah, that'll do it, every time. and rightly so!

meantime, dark matter's stuff is quite good. have you seen the one with the goat sacrificing atheists with a dungeon S&M disco?

 

the strange alliance betwixt conservatives and jesus is probably one of the odder things seen in modern christianity.

on that, if I was satan, I'd LOVE conservatives. they're always so very ready to do my dirty work

 

Unfortunately the Ultra-Right Wing Religious have hijacked the Republican Party.

And the GOP KNOWS THIS as they are trying VERY HARD to DUMP this group and remove such Religious Ideology out of the GOP Platform.

AboveAlpha

 

bizarre, no? that christians of any stripe have somehow interpreted conservatism (in the populurist meaning of the word) from jesus' teachings. the only explanation for that is the smutty obsession with sex evident in the bible. and given this strange idea that conservatism is about genitals, haircuts, and marriage, you can see how the modestly gifted might make the leap.

can you imagine if you were jesus? i.e., the son (or in fact the dude himself) of god, omnipotent, extra-universally huge, omniscient, etc etc, and you dropped in for afternoon tea one Sunday after church - only to find that your acolytes had somehow twisted "give freely of your riches to the poor" and "I like to hang with hookers and drug addicts, and, hey peace, bro!" to haircut judgements, right wing capitalist politics, and overweening concern with how genitalia are used. It's almost as though they took the message and said "let's do the polar opposite!"

 

The way I see it the two parties once stood for two ideologies that made sense and were beneficial.

The GOP stood for creating the right business environment for companies both large and small to prosper and thus grow creating jobs and creating economic growth.

The DEM's used to be about protecting the rights of the workers by supporting unions and programs necessary to help people out of work and by doing this preventing an almost FEUDAL SYSTEM of treating workers like property which did occur years ago.

SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY BOTH PARTIES LOST IT!!!

The GOP came to support large Corps. running roughshod over the environment, the law, the workers and PROFITS became more important than THE WELL BEING OF THE COUNTRY.

The DEM's came to support creating Government Jobs for every buddy and friend and company they knew or owed and Government got HUGE and accountability went out the window as it was all about THROWING MONEY AT A PROBLEM rather than fixing it.

We need to have both Parties get back to what they were originally about.

RELIGION has no place in Government.

ACCOUNTABILITY must take president over Union Deals.

AboveAlpha

 

Atheists....are like stalkers. They follow Christians arounds so to speak...shouting insults, mocking...obviously obsessed in an unhealthy way. How much energy goes into all the multitude of anti-Christian threads? That in itself is a testament to the necessity in believing in something. To not believe in anything...leaves a person writhing and ranting. have a nice day.

 

Nothing at all wrong with government being the employer of last resort when industrialists have laid down on the job. That's how we ended the Great Depression. Conservatives will whine that it was WW II that ended it. But what was that if not government jobs? Do cons really think that the most constructive thing Americans can join together to build are bombs and war machines?

AA see me after class and we'll get you straightened out about economics.

 

This topic is named...ON WHAT BASIS DO CHRISTIAN'S CLAIM THEIR GOD IS GOOD?

Now anyone either Christian's or Non-Christian's are welcome to post what they believe specific to this topics question and for the SMART AND NOT LACKING IN FAITH CHRISTIAN this is an oppertunity to describe what it is about their belief in Christianity that allows them to have FAITH that the GOD they believe exists is a GOOD GOD.

Now...unlike such Christian's I just described YOU have decided to look at this topic as if it was a THREAT AND INSULT to you....but in reality this topic is whatever a person makes of it.

I would assume from your post your FAITH is not that strong at all.

AboveAlpha

 

Actually, I'm just trying to help you. Sometimes an objective view is useful when a person is emotional---and constantly contructs threads in an obsessive way. But you're right....I'm off topic.

 

I like me some AA as much as the next bot, but I would tend to agree with you on the need for a little economic rejiggery.

 

mocking is just as it should be. if in doubt, see 'talking donkeys, pillars of salt, parted seas, zombies'.

we 'follow you around' hoping to see answers to reasonable questions. on the strength of that, on what basis do you claim your god is good?

 

First of all if you actually READ what I posted I basically stated that we need a bit of what BOTH Political Parties originally stood for and in order to help get the U.S. out of Depression and Recession it was a GOOD THING for Government to create and fund massive works projects....and Dem's and the GOP has done this alike such as IKE'S Interstate Program and as you mentioned F.D.R.s plans.

As far as Military Spending I believe we can cut Military spending and still keep our Military strong and in fact in the next 7 years we will be capable of reducing or eliminating a large number of soon to be redundant U.S. Military Programs that several Direct Energy Weapons such as the FEL will make unnecessary.

Where you came to think what you implied in your post to me I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!

AboveAlpha

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Et tu...Crank?

AboveAlpha

 

Ok....well...I've spent enough energy here. Have fun.

 

Me excusatum. Status appellatur gens observatio.

 

Threats????

How did you possibly come to that conclusion?

Just to let you know if I am even mentioning something like I have to you in my post it is because I was trying to show you the oppertunity you were missing as YOU posted an emotional reply detailing our how you perceived wrong doings by Atheists...something I am not.

I NEVER THREATEN....I INFORM.

Believe me if I was effected by another person to the extent I felt a THREAT was warranted...I would not say a single thing at ALL.

As I do not give WARNING prior to an action.

AboveAlpha

 

so, no answer then?

and you wonder why we mock.

 

Most of us understand you need to believe it's driven by powerful emotions, as powerful emotions SEEM to lend weight to your position. But adding the notion that there is obsession involved is merely a vanity. "We must be special/true/good because look how they obsess!". Psych 101.

What you're seeing is simply firm resistance, for the first time in 2000 years.

 

Personally I think it's SAD.

It's sad because he cannot even engage in a civil conversation about this topics question which is a VERY valid question.

As I posted before such Ultra-Religious People see any questions as HERESY and any alternative concepts or opinions as BLASPHEMY!!!

On another topic which is specific to asking tough questions of Christian's I can't even get some of these people to EVEN DISCUSS why over 95% of all Christian's do NOT believe what the other less than 5% of Christian's believe that being that Genesis should be taken as FACTUAL STORIES...even though the other 95% Plus members of Christianity have come to understand such Old Testament Biblical Stories cannot be taken literally but can be of use for the lessons.

Now...when I or someone else tries to discuss this intelligently we get called all sorts of names and told we will either someday have our eyes open or Burn in HELL...LOL!!! Depends upon the member posting!!!

But what we cannot seem to do is have an HONEST AND CIVIL CONVERSATION about such obviously impossible stories...as those who still believe such Fables refuse to even CONSIDER THE REALITY that such Biblical Stories were written by ancient man who did not have the ability to know than what we know know.

AboveAlpha

 

it's the questions that have blind-sided religionists. they never expected it, and have never prepared for it. it reminds me of those faked up building facades used in old hollywood westerns. all they were was a front wall. when we start asking questions of theist dogma, it's like we're asking to go inside the building and check out the floor plan and the furnishings. all they can do is try really really hard to keep that front door closed.

 

The one thing I have noticed is such people seem to think that the New Testament just POPPED into existence.

When I bring up that it was the Roman Emperor Constantine who created the Biblical Canon...ie...a bunch of guy's who over HUNDREDS OF YEARS picked and chose which Books and Gospels would be included to create the New Testament.

These people think the King James Bible is THE WORD OF GOD!! LOL!!!

Even though if a person took the very first King James Bible and compared it to many previous versions of the JKB they would see different words being used never mind if they compared it to the first version of the New Testament created by what is now the Roman Catholic Church.

Such people HATE reality.

AboveAlpha