(20) Students stabbed at Franklin Regional High School in Murrysville

Teenage violence is increasing in our society. Every other day we come across horrible stories which are sometimes difficult to digest. This time story came from Pittsburg, boy stabbed 19 students and 5 are in critical condition.
Do we have to think over this situation, why it is taking place again and again. Has our family system being responsible for it.?

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/in..._after_student_with.html#incart_river_default

 

Not a fact. I went without a car for years and got by just fine. Right to bear arms is a constitutional right. Right to drive a car is not

 

Don't have to be a good shot in close quarters spraying indiscriminately.

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Kid stabbed 20 people. If he was close enough to stab people he didn't have to be a good shot.

Keep trying. Anyone can shoot you at point blank, even a half blind person.

 

As bad as it could be if he had used a car like the guy in Austin who killed four without even trying.

Or a bomb like the Muslims in Boston.

Or poison.

Or gas.

The problem is children going insane in our modern lib society.

 

What family system? The family started disappearing years ago in our society. This violence is a result of the breakdown in our society. The benefit of stability has been ignored too long so now we are experiencing the result of too much focus on individual wants versus the needs of the group.

 

More people die from choking than from jumping off of buildings... That's because people spend more time eating than jumping off buildings.
Similarly, the average American spends far more time driving than operating a firearm. If you compare the number of deaths in relation to the amount of time engaged in each activity, you quickly see this is an obvious strawman.

Comparing all knives to a single type of firearm? Strawman. That being said, I agree that bans are stupid.

Comparing all blunt objects to a single type of firearm? Strawman.

Good. If violent crimes are so rare, then I guess "self defense" isn't a valid reason to own a firearm, right?

Maybe at the point where those freedoms limit the freedoms of others by facilitating criminal activity?

Agreed!

Agreed! Gun control is about finding a workable solution rather than accepting the status quo. Gun banning is giving up on finding a solution.

Sure, those who are really determined would think it through find another way. Those who are momentarily overcome by irrational depression would have the opportunity to change their mind when they become rational enough to think about another way.

Or, we let people purchase whatever firearm they choose in the same way they purchase whatever car they choose (training, licensing, registration, insurance, etc).

 

Are you suggesting that knives are just as effective as guns?
Perhaps you'd care to explain why so many people want to have a gun for "self defense" when they already have knives in their home, or why our military has more guns than swords?

 

Facts are facts, no straws needed
And no comparing it to the types of *dangerous* firearms targeted by gun control advocates
We already have criminal laws. Zero need to ban any firearms
Glad you agree banning is stupid
Which is what I support to include training, but registration I don't even support that with cars. Insurance eh firearm insurance?

 

If you mean gun banning advocates, I agree.

I agree that there is zero need to ban any firearms. I would suggest that maybe we could make some of our criminal laws enforceable, rather than making laws that can't be enforced...

Glad I could bring a ray of sunshine into your day.

Registration would actually let police find straw purchasers and enforce those laws.
Liability insurance with firearms would encourage safe storage and safety training with lawful gun owners, which would lower accidental/negligent shootings and lower weapon theft.

 

Pretty hard to drive a car through a building. Not hard to bring in a gun.

Your pathetic attempts at dodging the real issues are however noted.

 

If only someone had something that could have stopped him in a second and prevented 20 children from getting stabbed....hmmm....what would that thing be.

 

How do you know he did not have access to a firearm? What those that would outlaw all firearms are so brain dead naïve about is that Criminals ALWAYS have access to firearms. The criminal even has access to weapons that some police agencies can not access such as full auto machine guns. We Law abiding Americans simply want our rights restored. However, I am at the point of thinking that a large number, perhaps the majority of firearm opponents have an inability to think critically, if at all.

We that want our God given and constitutionally guaranteed rights to remain intact and IN FORCE know what many gun control Nazis really want, and that is simply that all firearms eventually be banned. They want gun owners i.e. those that enjoy firearms demonized into extinction. What those freedom haters really want is for the USA to become a Karl Marxist nation populated by slaves to the state without any real rights at all. That will not happen.

reva

 

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How do you know he did not have access to a firearm? What those that would outlaw all firearms are so brain dead naïve about is that Criminals ALWAYS have access to firearms. The criminal even has access to weapons that some police agencies can not access such as full auto machine guns. We Law abiding Americans simply want our rights restored. However, I am at the point of thinking that a large number, perhaps the majority of firearm opponents have an inability to think critically, if at all.

I am pro firearm and oppose any type of gun control (more like thought control). I want my God given and constitutionally guaranteed rights to remain intact and IN FORCE know what many gun control Nazis really want, and that is simply that all firearms eventually be banned. They want gun owners i.e. those that enjoy firearms demonized into extinction. What those freedom haters really want is for the USA to become a Karl Marxist nation populated by slaves to the state without any real rights at all. That will not happen.

reva

 

Divorce, self-absorbed materialism, and the barrage of bad examples on display among corporate types, politicians, religious leaders, sports figures and celebrities are as much to blame as bad parenting.
Americans now worship money and celebrity above everything else. The kids have no one to look up to.

 

Any stats to support your claim? Anecdotal evidence for this assertion is meaningless in a country with over 300 million people in it.

 

So driving it down a crowded sidewalk when school's letting out wouldn't work? Naive!

 

LMAO...We can see from all of your sarcastic little somersaults that you acknowledge the problem of guns.
The main lesson everyone takes away from this is that the school is very lucky the kid didn't have guns for his mayhem.
But that essential bit of wisdom has flown right over your head, eh kid?

 

I'd bet an untrained teenager would.

 

The essential bit of wisdom which has escaped you is school violence happens without guns. Ironically military base violence also happens when the the victims are unarmed. Does the fact that most of these events happen in gun-free zones, or no-tolerance zones, fly right over your head? In my own town, innocents were slaughtered in a movie theater that didn't allow victims to be armed. The only two constants here: crazy violent people and unarmed victims. I'll say it again for emphasis, defenseless unarmed victims. Defenseless because of people like you. That fact has flown right over your head, eh kid?

It doesn't matter, you and your kind will never get it. More people will be killed, and your kind will enact more stupid laws that restrict freedom. More people will die, and you will still spout your nonsense due to a political philosophy rather than acknowledge reality.

 

Kid? I'm likely old enough to be your Dad. Judging by the naivety about guns, maybe Grand Dad.

The vast majority of people couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a gun, especially some teenager. But with a knife they'll run right up to you, grab you by the back of the neck and pull you toward them as they ram that 12" Chef's Knife right through your chest cavity. Having actually been there, I'll take the person with a gun at a distance any day.

 

Is it my imagination or are conservatives so eaten up with hate, paranoia and suspicion (the kid must be Muslim, black or Hispanic) that they verge on insanity?

 

Yep; guns/dark movie theater. I can see how having a gun blasting away in the darkness would work...
The craziness you refer to is that of a nation where there are more guns in circulation than the population. Absolute insanity; yet whenever an atrocity occurs all the pro-gun idiots start yelling "more guns will save us!"

 

Because you dont bring a knife to a gun fight ~

 

You're not imagining it.
The right has gone nuts and all they have left to cling to are their guns and intolerant religious dogma.
They have degenerated into a seriously defective clan.

 

And shockingly that has nothing to do with the topic....