Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

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Do you suspect that large companies suppress truth about natural remedies?

  1. No, that is ridiculous and absurd!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Sure....we all have an evil streak in us!

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  3. Yes, but misleading information on supposedly natural remedies is even worse!

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  4. My doctor would never do that!!!!

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  1. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From what I've been reading and told, cancer is very diverse and there won't be a single cure for all cancers any time soon. Any 'news' story or article that suggests that this is one cure is probably bs.
     
  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But……isn't it logical that any type of nutrition that boosts the human immune system……..would tend to reduce the incidence of just about every type of cancer?

    This makes the Dr. Leo Rebello article on trace minerals especially interesting!

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    So…… any potentially rich inventor……would be thoroughly less than impressed with Dr. Leo Rebello for proposing a natural solution that would cost less than one Australian dollar per per person per year?
     
  3. Polydectes

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    I just don't see the motivation. They wouldmake a fortune selling it. Being that cancer isn't viral there would be new people and new cases of cancer popping up thus constant revenue being generated.

    It makes no sense from a business stand point.
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Just because a patent has expired doesn't mean someone won't sell it. The patents on inflatable tires ran out a long time ago but people make millions selling tires. "Natural cures" are the same, if the were truly effective someone would market them not on late night TV shows designed to get your credit card bill so the you bill you fake charges, it would be like aspirin, sold at the drug store in prepackage proper dosages on the proven advice of your doctor who makes no money when Wal-Mart fills you prescriptions.
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Been using this stuff since 1999……… great natural pain relief for lower back pain… and my allergies are almost gone… and the number of colds or flu that I get since I started taking this stuff is way way down!!!


    http://www.msm-info.com/#Cell Membrane

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    http://www.msm-info.com/#Cancer
     
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    Um, I wasn't talking about patents expiring. I was talking about patents keeping other people from selling something.

    Patents having a shorter exclusivity period is actually a good thing, since it makes it easier for more producers to release something.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Well you can't patent naturally occurring substances so it is a moot point anyway, if it is a natural remedy anyone can sell it.
     
  8. wyly

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    how is boosting your immune system going to target cancer?...your immune system does nothing to stop cancer because the immune system recognizes the cancer as part of you...if the cancer was an invader like a virus or bacteria it would attack the cancer... but cancer is not an invader, it's your own body cells gone bonkers...
     
  9. DennisTate

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    Good question………. Dr. Leo REbello is a doctor….. I'm not…… .he seems to think that there is some correlation???????!!!!



    http://www.healthwisdom.org/aidsminera.htm
    Interesting… this guy seems to think that there could be a link between the incidence of cancer…..with poor nutrition!!!!!!?????

    How many minerals are added usually to the fertilizer that farmers put on their fields in North America?
     
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    His articles correspond with the best theories regarding the Valley of Longevity in Ecuador………. They also correspond well with the Dr. Joel Wallach research…………… There is serious bucks involved in discrediting a simple theory such as written up by Dr. Leo Rebello……. we sure wouldn't want to find out that cancer could be significantly reduced for the cost of only one dollar per person per year now would we?

    So how much does Dr. Rebello make off that article?
     
  12. wyly

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    Hes not a doctor...boosting immunity to fight cancer is nutty...
     
  13. Moi621

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    No Herb or its' natural products are patentable.
    So Saw Palmetto becomes Proscar by bending the molecule around a bit to make an absolutely unnatural substance.


    No pharmaceutical company is going to bear the costs of proving the therapeutic benefit of some herbal Rx.
    That is one reason there has been very little studies of the therapeutic uses of :weed:.
    And no one will bear the costs of acquiring FDA approval for what is under the law, Generic already.

    That is the situation and it is reasonable that known, naturally occurring anti-cancer substances are merely, ignored.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coley%27s_toxins

    A U.C. Davis medical center doc was trying to recreate the observations of the above product on terminal brain cancer patients and busted.
    Where is the modern research on Coley's Toxins?



    Moi, M.D. ret. :oldman:
    The answer to the poll is unequivocally "YES", but that option is not offered



    No :flagcanada:
     
  14. wyly

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    pointless for drug companies to spends 100's of millions on natural remedies that they can't patent, it would bankrupt them...
     
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    Homeopathic medicine has centuries of experience to prove that many natural cures actually work! In fact, some of the most common "miracle medicines" such as aspirin and penicillin came from so-called "shamans" [a badly used word] using natural plants to cure certain illnesses.

    I know for a fact that some of these work. Does your baby have an ear infection? Trying charing a clove of garlic over and open flame and, when it cools off, place it in the baby's ear and watch it draw out the infection.

    As a student of history, there have always been herbs and foods that truly deal with illnesses. As well, so-called "faith healing" has been effective for some through known and unknown history.

    Do pharmaceutical companies want to suppress evidence of it? Of course they do! How else can they make money?
     
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    Exactly wyly!!!!!!

    Unless the drug company came up with another way of making money…. where perhaps they could hire a sick person….. to become an actor playing the role of a sick person….. and actually assisting this person to get well in the least expensive and fastest manner possible could be a film that they produce that could perhaps make them more money over the long term??????!!!!!

    OK…….. you are right!!!!!!!! That was just stupid of me wasn't it?????!!!!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...urrencies-finance-films-address-problems.html

    New Age Communities can print local currencies finance films that address problems?!
    At this time I tend to believe that New Age Groups may be the most likely to successfully initiate local currencies and use them to finance film projects in which homeless people could become actors playing the role of homeless people.... .which could easily finance their buying or renting homes????!!!!

    http://www.whatcomwatch.org/php/WW_open.php?id=717
     
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    Something amazing though is how much the therapeutic use of hemp has been researched… … and yet….. how little is said about this by bureaucrats involved with the health industry!!!!!??
    http://www.skepticfiles.org/socialis/cannabis.htm
     
  18. DennisTate

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    Those people over at the Mayo Clinic seem to think that it has potential????!!

    http://www.mayo.edu/research/discoverys-edge/training-immune-system-fight-cancer
     
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    The Amazon Rain Forest…… is probably worth far far far far far more as a Rain Forest…. than as pasture land for hamburgers….. isn't it?
     
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    like taking vitamins to cure a gunshot wound...a healthy immune system is required to recover from cancer because the body is susceptible to viral, bacterial and fungal attack during treatment...

    but I'm having a coffee with a couple friends this morning(a Cardiologist and Rheumatologist) later this morning I'll ask their opinion...
     
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    so I spoke with my MD friends they were both familiar with the plan but they it hasn't panned out...improving immune system doesn't help defeat the cancer because the immune system sees the cancer as you, and it is...they said the though was to trick the immune system into believing the cancer is a foreign body and attack the cancer and not the patient but that hasn't succeeded... merely strengthening the immune system will do nothing in itself...
     
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    A healthy immune system is minimally required to kill that last malignant cell.
    It is accepted that radiation, drugs, etc. may wipe out 99.999% of malignant cells but, that last cell, the most resistant to toxic (cytotoxic therapies) must be killed immunologically to achieve "cure".
    There are two ways to use immunotherapy.
    1) Just rev it up and let it do its' thing. We see this with current Hep C treatments and the probably mechanism of Coley's Toxins mentioned above.
    2) Targeted stimulation. Used today in Prostate cancer. The immune system is taught what antigen to look for and go for it!

    Unfortunately, Immune therapy today is used as a means of last resort.
    AFTER the immune system has been crippled by radiation and cytotoxic therapies.


    BTW
    With the information on Coley's Toxins presented above and the mention of :weed:
    Is there any doubt on Board that Cancer could be routinely curable if it were not for the unrestricted profit motive?
    There is no profit in cooking up a mixed bacterial broth of toxins and injecting it into tumors.
    And those who study it today are chastised. Go figure.

    Maybe, if a "Reward" were offered to discover natural cures of allow for revelations on natural cures.
    A substantial reward that would cover "lost profits".



    Moi :oldman:




    No :flagcanada:
    Let Their Middle Class Pay For :flagus: Defense
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This sounded interesting:


    Read More At http://www.getholistichealth.com/39776/chinese-herb-eradicates-cancer-in-40-days/
     
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    What I have read about MSM so far…. indicates that as it boosts the immune system it delays the onset of cancer.


    http://www.msm-info.com/#Cancer

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    Thank you for that clarification wyly! I will definitely keep that in mind as I am posting on this topic.
     
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    not that a strong immune system hurts, when fighting cancer, the stronger/healthier you are the better...

    eew to bad you never asked a question about auto immune disease I could've asked a more direct question of the Rheumatologist ...
     

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