Another Study Finds The Right Wing Is Wrong, As Usual

Yeah, this is one of two fallacies (take your pick) - either straw man, or taking the most extreme and painting it as representative of the whole. That's like a "right winger" as you may say, taking claims of certain Communist members as representive of the left wing. Even prefaced as "on this forum" that is absurd and ridiculous. Really, you post some decent stuff - if you could shut off the absurd partisan spout, it'd be a lot more fruitful.

I'd add that what's interesting about homelessness is that the vast majority are men, and that society as a whole doesn't care a great deal about it. Don't you think society would care a lot more if the homeless looked like this?

 

I get to see the sign handlers up close whenever I make a left turn in my sunbelt city. Most of those people are not what anyone could possibly call 'normal'.

 

The guy that paints my house lived downtown in an area where some of the so called "homeless" lived and they would often have a couple of hundred on them from the day panhandling.

 

Didn't need a study to know the right wing is wrong, but it's nice to point it out.

Thanks for the thread.

 

Not only do I not see this regularly boasted about but I don't remember anyone even talking about the homeless much less the fact they are homeless because they are lazy. Can you post some of the links so we know what you are talking about?

 

You've never been here...

 

So to clarify. Did the right wing make these people take drugs or did they make that choice all on their own? Sure everyone at some point can lose their homes. If you make a life decision to take drugs then your chances of losing your home and family are exponentially higher. How is that our fault? We are the ones telling you how bad drugs are and you lefties keep wanting to make them more accessible.

 

Often those homeless have someplace to go but choose to not do so. There will always be those that do not fit in. Interviews with homeless prove so.

 

No, it was not "propaganda"; and you did not prove that it was.

So yes, we're on the same page there.

 

And they'll go to war at the drop of a hat, yet somehow find it exceedingly difficult to write-up and PASS a decent veteran's bill to take care of damaged soldiers when they return from war.

I got my eye on you, you warmongering Right-wingers.

 

Man, that is some seriously hyper-partisan propaganda.

Wow!!

 

Yeah, you are describing the attitude on the Right very well.

 

Man, that is some seriously hyper-partisan propaganda.

Wow!!

 

No different then the Left insulating that the Tea Party's A: Racist or that B: All of their positions are radical(though in the Left's case, this might not feel like propaganda, but the 'truth' as they see it).

The reality is that the Left doesn't want the Right to use Propaganda. Propaganda is the main political weapon that can sweep in regimes, keep corrupt ones in place and make people docile. It's Propaganda that allows you to blame a minority party for your party's failures to address the issues.

My propaganda isn't merely that your party fails to address the issues. The Left, and Leftists as a whole have sabotaged our country! The Left couldn't exist without a "suppressed class" or without an enemy. To be sure, even the RINO's will be sold out eventually. Once they vote for "immigration takeover", the RINO's purpose would be fulfilled.

There's no patriotism or honor within the Left. It was only until the Left declared war against Americans that the political climate became what it is. And for a while yet, those of the opposition willingly took punches from the Left. It didn't earn them any favors. Your so-called "future politics" was no different than the politics of the past.

So why should we "honor" a politics that doesn't exist? The Right must use Propaganda! More and More of it, until the political waters become quick sand! If the Right cannot muster the strength, then an Independent must.

As a former Liberal, I know how the Left uses Propaganda. And I've become convinced the only way to defeat the Left is with Propaganda.

 

Just over one in ten total homeless are veterans, typical distortion noted. And that comports well with my attitude, that a vast majority of the homeless aren't innocent victims, neither are a vast majority of the lower quintiles of socioeconomic strata.

 

just like the majority of the wealthy aren't innocent "wealth creators" either.

 

I "distorted" nothing. Did you read my link or not?

 

Nonsense.

The difference to note is what policies each faction promotes; they are not the same.

Everything else is just noise.

 

Wrong. Apples and oranges, not even a good try at "tit-for-tat." A vast majority of wealthy, small business owners and the highly compensated are completely honest with clean hands in their -voluntary- dealings in markets. This is near to being true by definition. People who make -good- choices, do better socioeconomically generally. People who make -bad- choices do worse generally. People who make -good- choices end up having excess capital to -risk- and multiply into significant -wealth- and -innovation- that benefit all of us. People who spend every dollar they can get on booze, cigs, whatever, never accumulate anything other than debt and misery. Glad to contribute to your education in this very obvious way, it seems to be much-needed.

 

I love how whever we start talking about this, conservatives immediately turn to small business owners. This, to me, is the telltale sign of a coverup. Small business owners, on average earn from $40-100K per year. These are hard working people, and they are middle class, not wealthy. The people I'm talking about--the wealthy--are not small business owners. They are almost entirely business executives, half of them working in finance. Many of them make their money essentially by using financial tricks to siphon money from the economy into their own pockets. These people are hardly wealth creators (other than the wealth they create for their own pockets). You talk about making good choices. Yea, I guess it's a good choice to go into a field where you suck money from others' peoples pockets into your own. But is society making a good choice, when it allows people like this to do such things? Hardly.

 

1. It's far, far closer to the truth than the constant, intelligence-offending lies of the left about who and what business is in the US.
2. Small business in the US is defined by the SBA up to 1500 employees and revenues of 10-20 million. Nice try at making it all about the lady next door with the gift basket business she does 10 hours a week. Typical leftist distortion... fail.
3. Lots of wealthier small business owners have their houses, cars and everything they own securing business lines of credit. They live risk every day, have and did for years while working long days, unlike a vast majority of the spoiled bureau/academy/union left.
4. I predict that you will repeat your erroneous understanding of finance and its actual place in the economy over and over no matter what I say, so will just ignore that part. "Financial tricks to siphon money from the economy?" sounds like a line from one of Oliver Stone's more hideous propaganda efforts. Did you get that and the rest off of some union pamphlet? Sure sounds like something a sweaty old union crook in a warmup suit smoking a cheap cigar would write while people drop off and pick up the brown bags running between his and Tony Soprano's office.

 

The petty debates about right wing issues and left wing issues are to keep the unimportant people occupied. The one percent and Big Business own the U.S. government and run it for their own benefit, and have done so for decades, regardless of the needs and wishes of the average Americans.

The income inequality in this country has been growing since before the Great Depression, so it is nothing new. The only difference now is that right-wingers believe the wider the income and wealth gap becomes the better they will be treated by the people they worship, the fat cats.

The conservatives and neoconservatives will not wake up to the fact they have been duped by the Koch Brothers and other one percenters who claim to be working for the good of all Americans before reality strikes.

Until the day they find everything they owned gone, their life savings gone, their jobs gone, and they are living on the streets, the right-wingers will remain confident in the fat cats’ “benevolence.” This confidence is nothing more than the conservatives and neoconservatives whistling in the dark.

But, it will be fun to watch when the final coup by the fat cats occurs, because the right-wingers will be taken completely by surprise and will stand silent, with their mouths agape. They will, of course, blame their misfortune on the liberals, the poor, and anyone else they can think of. But the righties will never point their fingers at the true cause of their newly acquired poverty, their heroes the one percenters, that have siphoned the wealth from all of the insignificant peones that comprise the 99%.

After they join the ranks of the homeless, it will be interesting to see how the right-wingers view their fellow “street people”.

 

If only things were as black and white and clear-cut as your incredibly simplistic post suggests.

 

so when republicans talk about small business they mean businesses making 10-20 million... not the mom and pop businesses the rest of us think of as small businesses