How do we speed up the politically irrelevancy of the far right ?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Channe, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know age and demographics are not on their side, but I really don't think America needs to be held back another 30 years by today's 50 + Tea Party, right winger. They, frankly, don't understand or accept change and they can't see the world beyond their own front door. They oppose high speed rail even though they don't understand how difficult flight is these days for under 1000 mile travel. They think with emotion on issues of gay marriage, religion, women's reproductive rights, and a plethora of other issues. I'm just tired of dealing with these older right wingers and their ignorance is becoming a hindrance on America's ability to compete with the advancing world.

    The younger conservatives like S.E. Cupp are much more desirable but they lack the numbers, power, influence,and money of the old right wing guard. That the far right ideology is diminishing in power every day is a good thing, but there are still enough of them that their votes are having sway. It's disheartening to see us be so primitive on social issues while the rest of the advanced world laughs at us. Mind you, I'm not advocating for anything immoral or extreme in diminishing the influence of the older right wing. I'm wondering if anything can be done to weaken their relevancy within necessary, legal, moral, and political means.
     
  2. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    How dare taxpayers resent having their money taken at gunpoint to finance boondoggles, aggrandize bureaucrats, and give free stuff to moochers.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am a conservative that:

    ...is 50+
    ...does not oppose HSR, as long as it operates at break-even for the taxpayer or, even better, is private sector.
    ...supports equal treatment under the law for ALL citizens (gay or otherwise)
    ...supports freedom of religion (and freedom FROM religion), and strict separation of church and state.
    ...is pro-choice, as long as the one who chooses accepts FULL responsibility for that choice
    ...supports every one of the Tea Party's stated 'Core Beliefs' (though not necessarily the tea party itself)
    ...believes that America is the country that sets the example, not one that should follow the examples of lesser countries.

    My feeling is that you may have fallen for the 'demonize the opposition' propaganda from 'The Great Unifier', 'Mr. Transparent Government', BHO, without actually reaching out to any actual conservatives.
     
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    MisterMet New Member Past Donor

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    Maybe not advocate for it, but it sounds like you would welcome it though. Comrade
     
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    How dare SOME so called 'taxpayers' claim that the money they have 'acquired' through corrupt 'business tactics' consider the money 'their money' to begin with.
     
  6. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I were you guys Id start pushing for a third term or kingdom as soon as possible.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whats the % of taxpayers that do this? Please cite your source of this claim.
     
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    It is my opinion, and corruption comes in many forms. Some of it even borders on being legal.
     
  9. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well what information did you base your opinion on? Is it just your "feeling" or did you observe this corruption taking place somewhere? If you observed it how many people were involved?
     
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    It is the summation of my many years of living life, working for large corporate entities. They all have the same game, and the same kinds of BSers who get richer and richer along the way, telling everyone one that we need to 'tighten our bootstraps'. Mitt Romney comes to mind (I've never worked for him but, he seems the type who caters to the wealthiest and snubs his nose at those 'other people').
     
  11. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would not, sir. I disagree with you on most issues but do not have any ill will against you. I just think your views are outdated.
     
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    You cannot really diminish it and you should not want to. Conservative thought is a counter balance to liberal thought. If the conservatives get all things their way things stagnate. But if liberals get everything their way things change to quickly and chaos can ensue. Consider all of the liberal agendas that encompass that particular ideology and ask your self would you like ALL of them implemented tomorrow? I am sure you would not some things should take time.

    As the years pass the old conservatives die the young liberals often (not always) become the conservatives in a natural political progression. So also be aware that anything you do today to hasten the demise of the influence of the current conservatives very well could be used against you when you are older and you beliefs have altered.
     
  13. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well you said corruption so Im wondering how many companies you know of that are corrupt. Can you name them or cite the people you know are corrupt?
     
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    "How do we speed up the political irrelevancy of the far right?"

    Well, apparently making threads like this one is the favored method according to how many "demise of the GOP, demise of the right, demise of the TP" threads sprout up around here daily.

    How's that working out for you?

    Hint for you: What you call "the far right" (i.e. someone who doesn't agree with every single leftist tenet), is not some static group of old dinosaur people who are "dying out," but will replenish itself as long as people grow wiser as they age and gain experience. I was a leftist when I was your age, and bet most of the more fervent antileft folks here were too. Think on that.

    The real question is "how can we wisen up young, inexperienced chumps more quickly?" First year of law school, I was significantly older than other students, most of whom were straight from college. I sat and listened smiling to them rail on leftist resentment politics issues, it's all they knew, all they'd been taught. Then a few years after graduation, with them working the first meaningful private sector jobs they'd ever had, my oh my how things had changed, and this time I got to sit and listen smiling to them tell me all about Rothbard, Hayek and what a hack Krugman was.
     
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    Yes... win elections.
     
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    Nor I against you.

    Now, what are these views you speak of?
     
  17. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The rich have the means to be corrupt. They're good at committing and hiding their evil deeds.
     
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    As outdated as the constitution? Do you believe in the constitution as it is written? Have you ever really read it? Do you believe there should be limits to government? If so, what are those limits? Let's set the framework for what you might perceive as 'conservative'.
     
  19. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your view that being gay is a choice is just factually wrong. Your view that religion is meaningful and necessary in 2014's America is wrong. You are wrong in thinking for profit health care is a viable option for our country going forward. You fail to understand why abortion saves more lives in the long run. You fail to realize that sometimes it is only government that can fix things. You falsely think the poor and rich are mostly there by choice.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having the means to be corrupt doesn't mean you are corrupt.
    So does that mean Obama is corrupt? He is not only Rich but powerful.
    So basically you say the Rich are corrupt but cant list the % who are or cite the numerous examples you believe exist.
     
  21. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Our founding fathers had slaves. Not everything they did and said need be accepted as legitimate.
     
  22. Channe

    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Obama is corrupt. You don't get to the top of the Chicago political cog without being so.
     
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    Great now what is the % of Rich people who are corrupt like Obama and where did you get the information?
     
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    So, I understand you that because our founders had slaves that our constitution is invalid and needs to be done away with? Based on the fact that our founders were slave owners, what parts of the constitution would you consider invalid?
     
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    Which is why the nation moved to the left. We are sick of Republicans lying through their teeth about small, limited government, while simultaneously expanding federal and executive power unprecedentedly and spending exorbitant tax dollars on boondoggles like the Iraq war.
     

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