so what we have is one person's word against another? who do you believe? The unemployed thug who has a hard-on for the police in general, or the degree'd professional? I'm not saying that degreed individuals aren't capable of lying or crimes.... I'm just saying who I'm more inclined to believe is all. If it comes out that the cop lied (video, or something like that), I will be happy to admit I was wrong and I would support the cop's punishment it's like a job interview. out of the witness and the cop.... who are you more likely to trust around your 15 y.o. daughter? - - - Updated - - - it's not uncommon for blacks to race-bait either, in order to take advantage of a political situation either.
There will at least be a civil case from Brown's family, which I hope you know, would be different than a criminal case. Either way his name will come out. This is why I sometimes have a soft spot for US citizens. They are their worst enemy and do more damage to themselves than anyone else can! Don't ever change. Please? - - - Updated - - - You responded too quickly. You obviously didn't read anything I posted except for the last sentence. No, there are multiple witnesses, multiple who tell a different story than the lie the police department gave. I know that does not mix well with how you feel about black people but that's the reality.
you mean the cop hating community says the cop did something wrong? no way you say...... getting 2 people, or 200 people to repeat a lie doesn't magically make it the truth. Without video proof.... I'm inclined to believe the cop's word. But again, if video surfaces, that shows the kid throw his hands up in the air in compliance and then got shot, like the witness claim.... I will admit I'm wrong.
getting a story straight with a group with a common motive does not change the facts as they occurred. Getting the black community to agree to say "the kid raised his hands and complied" does not mean that's what happened necessarily.
You are delusional. Common sense has nothing to do with it. This is a case of circumstances in which we have little knowledge of. You of course are using common sense for your conclusion when you are really stereotyping the guy. That is what you mean by common sense.
You hate black people so obviously you'll take the police officers word for it over multiple sources/witnesses. I have proof he didn't do it from more than one source. You have one source....well you didn't post anything to back up your claim. Therefore, I'd put down the shovel if I was you. - - - Updated - - - The level of high intelligence debating on this forum is exhilarating! You don't know the difference between a civil case and a court case? Do you? Why does a foreigner know more about your justice system than you do?!
so a cop trying to save his ass says he went for the gun multiple cop haters in the community that may or may not have actually seen what happened, claimed the kid complied. I choose to believe the degreed professionals over the race baiting community unless some more proof comes out. I can get 20 of my closest friends to agree to say that i dumped my last g/f, too. Doesn't change the fact she dumped me just because I got 20 to agree to lie for me
I'm not saying anything other than I watched a female witness who says she saw the whole thing and relayed that information to us. Whether it's true or not, I haven't a clue. But I'm sure we will find out.
According to local, eyewitness, free-lance stringers at the scene, the cop was routinely patrolling the street, and asked the young gentlemen to please get back up onto the sidewalk. Michael Brown rushed the patrol car and was beating and dragging the cop out of his car. When Mr. Brown noticed the cop had pulled his gun from the holster, Brown darted back about 20 feet, and then lunged at the cop again and the cop shot him. The cop was hospitalized with severe head and face wounds.
Nah, a cop killed Michael Brown. http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/cruz-ferguson-killing-tragic-110010.html
1. I know more about american law than you could learn in 20 years 2. You are not foreign and are American. - - - Updated - - - Wishful thinking. Michael brown killed Michael brown.
Huh? You literally didn't refute the main point and only point of my post -- that he was shot 35 feet away.
Yea, you cling to your love for stereo type conclusions, and I'll stick to the facts of the case as it presents itself to us.
Perhaps you should read up on what Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are saying about this murder. Paul is saying that "when he was young, he might have smarted off but he wouldnt have expected to be shot." Ya see, to commit suicide, you have to expect to be dead.
There are two witnesses, one was walking with Brown, the other was not with them. Both their accounts contradict the officer's report. If Brown had been shot WHILE IN THE ACT of trying to obtain the officer's weapon, I would agree that he brought his death upon himself. However, that isn't what happened. He was shot some distance away from the squad car, without a weapon in his hand. He was in fact shot initially with his hands in the air. He was then shot repeatedly. Both witness accounts end in similar fashion, with the officer standing over a prone Michael Brown, firing multiple rounds into him. I don't care what happened before that. The police do not have the luxury to start gunning down unarmed men who are not actively engaged with them because they are pissed off at a prior action. The police MUST be held to a higher standard than that. The police cannot be gangsters in uniform.
same here. I have heard her account. I have heard the cop's account. I haven't heard what the official investigation has heard at this point and I'm assuming they have more evidence than we do as the general public at this point in time. but at this point..... witness word against cops word..... I'm giving the cop the benefit of the doubt.
Then how do you not know the difference between a civil case and a criminal case? How do you not know that in either instance the defendant's name is released? Wrong. I'm not a US citizen. - - - Updated - - - Except for the fact that the cop's account defies physics. You can't grab a gun when you are 35 feet away from the gun. It's not one witness it's multiple witnesses. They are black though so why trust them? Right Javis?
1. Your comprehension skills are very poor. I have not made any statement regarding whether a name or not gets released. Again, I know more than you could learn in 20 years. 2. Yes you are.