Obama’s Many Attempts At Silencing Political Dissent

He-They are doing a good job. I have some friends that only watch the 6 o'clock news..occasionally, on network news. Trying to discuss world events with them is like having a discussion with a 3 year old. Address most topics that pertain to any and all Obama follies and I get "Huh? Never heard of that..are you sure?"

 

Actually your OP and your second post are excellent examples of the way the far right uses misleading claims to build a lie.

It has now become far right gospel to claim that the IRS (or the Obama adminstration) tried to silence the tea party movement.

Of course, there is no evidence at all to support these claims.

In 2010 and through 2012, the IRS was flooded with with applications for tax free non profit status under a previously little used designation (501c4). 90 plus % of these application came from right wing political groups. Clearly, something strange was going on.

We know what it was. The Citizen's United case made unlimited secret campaign contributions legal. The GOP in an attempt to rally the base and rebrand a group that had become known as "Bush dead enders", hijacked the name of Ron Paul's grass roots movement and made it into a national public relations campaign. Agents for political consultants and lobbyists fanned out across the nation hosting meetings and creating a movement complete with busses, mailing lists, websites, printed materials, training and secret cash (that came from people that the groups did not have to report).

The last part was important. After all, how can you have a "grass roots" campaign if the bills are being paid by a bank or an oil company?

So, 501C4 became the hiding mechanism.

501c4 entities are self declared. So, once the applications is turned in, the group is free to conduct business as if it were approved. Even if the application isn't, the worst thing that could happen to the tea party group is that they would have to list the names of their donor and pay income taxes.

But no tea party groups were turned down, None were silenced.

The entire meme is a big lie.

Now, on to Mr Perry;s use of his power as governor to try and hound an elected official out of office.

He can say whatever he wants to about the District Attorney he tried to force out. But he can't deny the fact that two other District Attorneys were arrested for drunk driving while he was in office. He didn't harass or try to drive either one of them out of office. They were Republicans.

Not a single Democrat was involved in the process which led to the Perry indictment.

Of course, you offered both of these as alleged evidence of the Obama adminstration trying to silence its critics.

Yet there is no evidence at all that the Obama Adminstration or any Democrats were ever involved in the Perry indictment, lending the lie to your claim.

And not one tea party groups was denied 501c4 tax status by the IRS, nor were they delayed or kept from conducting business while their applications were pending, lending the lie to your other claim.

 

Another sad irony of this thead is the IRS meme. It's a lie, of course, but it's gospel in the bubble.

This right wing meme makes no sense at all. The tea party has been the GOP's problem ever since the 2010 mid terms. The far right wing was energized by the tea party campaign, as the GOP had planned. But they did not fall in line, as the GOP expected. Once the election was over, they, and the small band of crackpots that got elected and gave the GOP the House (which was the only real objective), they kept up, dragging the party to the far right. Right wing media has not helped at all, Instead, it has discovered fun and profit pandering to these people.

Why would any Democrat want to spoil that ?????

 

The easiest way to resolve that is to ignore the post. Your response lends credence to his post and elicits response from other viewers. Sort of a reverse Alinsky

See my response. Ooops... another bump to the top of the page.

 

Greta Van Susteren: Obama WH Called Me to Push Reporter to Not Cover Benghazi

[video=youtube_share;CNQ0jPJWIbw]http://youtu.be/CNQ0jPJWIbw[/video]

 

Be that as it may....posting on a political discussion forum will elicit all manner of screwed up responses. Besides, what would we do for fun around here if they didn't?

 

America appears to be in the process of slow, bumpy decline. Has been for quite some time now. Under both Republican and Democrat Presidents and Legislative branch of government. Our Supreme court as well as bureaucracies have become partisan and ideologically driven. We no longer are what we once were (if indeed we ever were what 'we once were'). Or maybe things haven't really changed all that much. Possibly we have been sold a 'bill of goods'. It might be that media exposure and the advent of the Internet has begun to lift the wool from our eyes. Except for those of you that are still 'partisan' and subscribe to one ideology or another.

 

Oh, it must have been another democrat that uses that language, because this is actually what Jackson said:

It has now emerged that he said: "Barack...he's talking down to black people...telling (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s how to behave."

I'm sure I could find many more examples of liberals that talk like that. The left likes to call republicans racist for not voting for Obama, now how insane is that liberal loon meme

 

The IRSS abuse should scare the crap out of every fan of LIBERTY. You must welcome totalitarian subservience.

 

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen - Dennis Prager

When my dad raised his family in the 60s his TOTAL TAX BURDEN was less than 20% of his total income. That's how much government he bought. Today, there's nobody that's middle class paying less than 40-50%.

It's not D VS R. It's government VS The People.

 

Who was promoting the Unitary Executive Theory a few years back?

 

Yes indeed, and both R's & D's propagate 'government vs. us folks'. The R's & D's just love this 'preoccupation' we the people have with partisan ideological bickering..Keeps us occupied with the minutia.

 

Very simple! LEAVE US ALONE, we will LEAVE YOU ALONE! We didn't start this word war or this assault on MY LIBERTIES, the holier than thou, YOU'RE GOING TO HELL crowd did, aligned with the WARRIOR STATE and the CAPITALISTS who pay for all it and therefore think they OWN IT.

GD screwiest ALIGNMENT of 'special interests' I've seen in my lifetime. Boggles the mind.

 

It is only the most extreme that the liberal media seems to hear from conservatives.

That is not what he said but the liberal horde heard it that way for their convenience.

Teaching that perverts have a right to be perverts is one thing but teaching that homoism is natural and the kids should try it is another thing.

In what way do christian force you to curb your perversion of choice?

This is the addition that the dems and the Republicans felt we needed with a Black America hater in the WH ==The updated version specifically defines the phrase "restricted buildings or grounds" to include "the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds."

 

Hahahahaha! Oh God, but this is priceless!

 

You're not subservient...that's more drama

 

We all just love the way right wingers use this Alinsky code word. Not one of you had ever heard of Alinsky before 2008, when the noise machine introduced his name as a code word.

 

...and to expose the left for being Alinsky acolytes. If it weren't for the noise machine the Alinsky methods would be the left's best kept secret. Or so the left would have thought.

 

the left loves the constitution, the right wants to replace it with biblical law....

 

From the ACLU site:

"It's important to note — contrary to some reports — that H.R. 347 doesn't create any new crimes, or directly apply to the Occupy protests. The bill slightly rewrites a short trespass law, originally passed in 1971 and amended a couple of times since, that covers areas subject to heightened Secret Service security measures."

Another RW conspiracy theory falls on its face.

- - - Updated - - -

"Ifs" don't happen except in the delusional fantasies of your own mind

 

Tell us about your extensive knowledge of presidential history in order to make that statement. Oh, that's right. You have no such expertise. Just more RW bloviation

 

Great summary on exactly what happened with the IRS and the 501s

 

I hadn't heard Saul Alinsky's name in neary 40 years, when the noise machine resurrected it.

Now it's a code word for the bobble heads. T

- - - Updated - - -

Thanks. I've been involved in setting up a couple of 501c3's now. This nonsense coming from the right wing talk radio crowd is just that. Baseless nonsense.

 

What is it that makes a connection between Emmet Till and Michael Brown. Only one thing but it's the one thing that is critically important to racists. The color of their skin. That's the only common factor.

 

Actually, the color of their skin seems to be equally important to liberals.