Sooo.. Texas ID law accepts concealed carry permits but not college ID?

OmG i just realized this. A current, valid college ID from in-state four year colleges are no good, but some loony Zimmerman sort is welcomed with open arms?

This crap is NOT going to stand. Sad



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SUPREME_COURT_VOTER_ID_TEXAS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-18-09-18-25

 

Is she saying that minorities are too incompetent to get an ID?

Seems racist.

 

Have yiu been to a college campus. Quite a few non citizens and many more claiming residency in another state. A college ID is in no way proof of residence.

 

I think she is saying minorities cannot get conceal permits in Texas which is totally wrong.

 

How is a concealed carry permit any better than a current student ID from a four year in-state college?

Try to focus.

 

The FBI performs a rather stringent background check on all CHL holders and determines whether or not they are a danger to society prior to issuing a CHL. And even though you know that we (CHL holders) are statistically safer to you than even the police, you still have a problem with us?

 

Federal background check and for certain states, additional state background checks.. Also, I think the application will ask for current address and it's a felony to lie on application.

College ids are not very stringent...

 

Everyone knows that CCP is intelectually superior over some 4 year in-state college

 

In case you missed it.

 

See post #3. Try to focus.

 

You need to stay focused here.

 

Baloney - the requirements for obtaining and changes to student IDs are extremely rigid and must be updated every six months.

Here is Texas A&M. The purpose of the Texas Law is very clear. The student vote leans Dem, and they are quite likely to neither have a driver's license nor a concealed carry permit. Shameful.

1. Student Registration

(Revised: 2014)

1.1 Student Identification Cards Upon initial registration, each student is issued a student identification card. This card, designed to be a career identification card, is the property of Texas A&M University and is validated each semester upon payment of fees.

1.1.1 Possession, alteration, use or attempted use of an ID card for the purpose of identification or to receive services, by anyone other than the person whose name, ID number and photo appear on the card is considered unauthorized use. The offender will be subject to penalties and confiscation of the ID card by university officials.

1.1.2 A student is required to produce his/her identification card upon the request of a university official.

1.1.3 It is the student's responsibility to report a lost or stolen identification card immediately through http://myaggiecard.tamu.edu 24 hours a day, seven days a week or by calling (979) 845-4661, Monday-Friday, 8 a.m.-5 p.m. Students will be assessed a fee to replace lost or stolen cards.

1.1.4 The name as submitted at the time of application to Texas A&M University establishes the official record for the student at the University. This record is considered an official record for the State of Texas. Any change of name request must be accompanied by legal federal or state documentation. A social security card or driver's license cannot be used as documentation to request a change of name; a birth certificate, passport, court issued name change document, marriage license, or common-law certificate are acceptable.​

http://student-rules.tamu.edu/rule01

 

We are in PERFECT focus!
FIRST- Every citizen is required by law to be in possession of a valid and current photo ID at all times. At least, that's what I was told when I received my very first drivers' license, 39 years ago. I have carried a valid and current photo ID (at least one) every single day of my life since then. It's called being a responsible Citizen.
I was naturalized when I was 13, having been born in Germany. I was told that I am responsible for carrying my Social Security card at all times by the nice lady who handed my very first one to me. That very card has remained in my wallet ever since.
SECOND- You have already been informed, in post #3, that there is no comparison whatsoever between a CCW and a College ID. A CCW is a genuine ID, duly registered with the Gov.

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No cigar champ. It doesn't say if the person is actually an illegal or not or even a US citizen. Your bolded part means nothing.

 

Don't like the rule??? Move to Detroit, chicago or California.... They allow voting for everyone...even multiple of times... Hell, sometimes dead people even vote. Makes it fun for everyone that way

 

Colleges have out of state students, concealed carry permits offer no benefitout of state. There need be no further discussion.

 

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There is no state oversight of college IDs, how they are issued, policed, regardless of whether they are considered an official record or not. They are far easier to forge and tamper with than official state documents. Anyone with a $50 laminator can create them by the truckload. Keeping a list of valid forms of all the possible student IDs at the polls would be onerous and ridiculous. Allowing those as picture ID to vote would be negligent and a violation of law in states with photo ID requirements. Just another way in which leftists, with little private sector experience and no commmon sense create yet another lie narrative soundbite.

Carry IDs OTOH, are issued by government. Yes they can be forged, but not nearly as easily as a student ID, and the severe legal consequences for doing so compared to fraudulent student IDs serve as a significant deterrent.

Few students don't have drivers licenses, and as young, healthy people, if they don't and want to vote, they can go get one. If they can afford to go to college, they can afford a driver's license. None of the typical leftist arguments revolving around stupid people or old, feeble people for whom getting an ID would be supposedly onerous apply to college students.

I don't have any idea how the elections will turn out, am not nearly as optimistic as others that the GOP will take the senate. But what I am pretty sure of is that the particular voter ID talking point of the left is losing it tons of credibility in the center. Most modern countries require ID to vote, and in a post 2000 world, it is a perfectly reasonable step for states to take. The left, with little real world experience, only sees things its way. What if a 2000 level event of election confusion were to occur but involved definite fraud that could have been prevented by the simple step of requiring voter IDs? Do YOU want to be a legislator or Secretary of State facing the citizens and the country when that happens, when you could have easily established voter IDs? I'll guarantee you do not want to be in those shoes. No one wants to be the next 2000 Fla regardless of how that might come to pass. That it is possible to result as part of fraud related to not having picture IDs is an entirely reasonable exigency to plan for.

 

Nonsense, these numbers are from 2012 and can't find a more recent study, but i'd be surprised if much more than 50% of college kids have cars.

If they don't drive and they want to vote, they just "go get" a driver's license?

That's silly and i think you know it.

http://college.usatoday.com/2012/07/24/new-study-suggests-fewer-students-want-to-drive/

 

The point of showing a photo ID is to match it up with the voter registration . If they aren't registered to vote in that state, then they can't vote.

The point of the ID is prove who you are, not that you are a valid resident of the district in which you are voting. That is handled by voter registration.

Texas for example:

Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
United States military identification card containing the person&#8217;s photograph
United States citizenship certificate containing the person&#8217;s photograph
United States passport

The bold do not show current state residency.

 

According to the National Imigration Law Center , Texas allows undocumented people to pay instate tuition. Enough said.

 

One is only issued to CITIZENS of the STATE, the other is not.

Makes DOUBLE VOTING by brainless out of state coeds a little tougher , huh?

 

Why don't other states with voter suppression measures in place refuse in-state full time college student IDs?

Part of the registration process and changing a name involves providing a birth certificate. I am quite certain that the student ID confirms origin of citizenship.

See the final rule for Texas A&M here:

http://student-rules.tamu.edu/rule01

 

Lame argument. How many out of state students are going to go home to vote a second time?

College students are "brainless" ... yeah that makes sense