What is "Gun Control?"

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by allislost, Oct 25, 2014.

  1. allislost

    allislost Member

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    What is “Gun Control?”
    Is it more laws?
    Is it more restrictions?
    What is it?

    Are new laws going to change how someone reacts to jealousy?
    Are new restrictions going to change how someone reacts with anger?
    Are new laws or restrictions going to change someone’s ethics or morals?

    I doubt it……

    It is against the law to sell a firearm to any criminal already.
    Whether it be at a gun show, a private sale or even to family…it is against the law!!!!
    A wrong sale could be poor judgment or lack of ethics and morals.

    Punish the ones that break the laws……
    It all comes down to ethics and morals…
    Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should…
    Freedom is knowing when and when not to use the rights you have.
    You also have the right now to use them at any time.
    Some times that is smartest thing to do…
    Maybe then but not now or maybe now but not then….

    Just like free speech, just because you can say it, doesn’t mean you should….
    Just because you can sell that firearm to somebody, doesn’t mean you should…Who are they?
    Greed and selfishness is the bottom line…..

    The more we police and censor our selves the better off we are.
    Sometimes making the right choice does not benefit us but someone else instead.
    oh well….
    Just my thoughts....
     
  2. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    "Gun Control" is defined by who is doing the controlling. Too many people are giving up their rights to a nanny state who wants to sanitize and childproof everything the public touches.

    I control my guns and accept the consequences of my actions, as it should be. I carry everywhere legally possible except for my work. Because I represent my company and I value my employment, my gun stays in my car when at jobsites. (or at home when working on Federal property)
     
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    emptystringer Active Member Donor

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    I agree with most of what you posted here. As for changing ones owns behavior with laws and restrictions I will say for me ,it did change my behavior. Way back in the day when I got my CCP,it did change how I presented my self out in public when I was carrying. I know the repercussions for violating the restrictions that having a CCP comes with. It's a awesome responsibility to carry a firearm in public. As time has carried on,now I don't need a CCP to carry concealed,but it is still a awesome responsibility.

    As for what gun control is,I agree with Texas,it depending on whose doing the controlling. We have seen in the last six years ,different types of gun control attempt's against our right to own and carry firearms. Thankfully most of those attempt's failed.If the r's win the senate,it will be interesting to see what new changes will come with having a pro gun congress.
     
  4. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you afraid someone is going to shoot you?
     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I don't know about the person you directed this at, but I'm afraid I won't be able to shoot back.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was directed at Texan. Why would you need to shoot back? Is someone out to shoot you?
     
  7. rwild1967

    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I know who it was directed at, I do not know what his answer would be but I gave you mine.

    No-one that I know of is planning on shooting me, stabbing me or doing me harm in any other way, but that is no guarantee that there isn't someone that I don't know about planning it. It also isn't a guarantee I won't be the target of random violence. If I am, I prefer to be able to fight back and I'm getting a bit long in the tooth for hand to hand combat.
     
  8. Texan

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    No, but I also carry jumper cables in my car, have a fire extinguisher in my kitchen, keep life, health, home, and car insurance up to date, and change the batteries in my smoke detectors regularly. I don't drink or do drugs, carry large amounts of cash, get involved with road rage inducing behavior, or cheat on my wife. I live in as nice a neighborhood as I can afford for my families safety and make a point of getting to know my neighbors. It's in my nature to be prepared for most emergencies and depend on others as little as humanly possible. If that makes me a paranoid guy, so be it. (I'm assuming that's where you were headed. Pardon me if I'm wrong about that.)

    I do work in all kinds of neighborhoods at all hours of the night. I've worked in downtown Chicago, Atlanta, St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Cleveland, Denver, El Paso, Miami, and a dozen other cities at midnight unarmed. (not my choice) I am frequently approached by homeless people when I work in many of these places. Having a gun on me when possible is insurance. If I were that afraid, I would change jobs.
     
  9. Riot

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    Gun control is slapping your child over the head with a rolled up news paper when they are playing with your loaded shotguns. No!! Bad baby!!
     
  10. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My question is; what is the significance of this?? Are you afraid for your safety in your neighborhood? Is it possible that someone will break into your home? Or is it just the mere thought?
     
  11. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    No. I'm not afraid for my safety in my own neighborhood. I don't get to pick the time when crime happens. My gun poses no threat to anybody not threatening me and it's not uncomfortable to wear.

    I have had threats from people that one of my kids got involved with through his stupidity.(That's all I will say about that.) They robbed him of several hundred dollars and were making threatening phone calls about a year ago of home invasion. I called the guys bluff and then had the police call his disposable cell number. I haven't heard from them since, but they do have my address. My kid realizes how stupid he was and he is now in the military and doing well. I made similar mistakes as we all do at that age. As carefully as I live my life, I have to be responsible for others and their mistakes sometimes.

    I have carried a gun for 6 years and nobody has ever seen it.
     
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    You don't have to be afraid of something to be prepared for it.
     
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    emptystringer Active Member Donor

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    Really?????????? are you so fickin dense that you think shooting back at someone who is shooting at me,would be a bad thing? I'm afraid of being told by my government that i don't have the right to defend myself.
     
  14. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Play nice in here if your going to respond to my posts. Be a little respectful whether or not you agree with my viewpoint.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, gun control originally started out to keep guns out of the hands of freed black slaves. I can't say liberals are for gun control though most of them are but there are plenty of liberals that own guns. Now it is a populist movement by those that think removing guns from society will fix gun violence. They are misguided since it would only remove guns from law abiding citizens who are not the problem. An irrational fear of guns is what gun control is about now.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well evidently with the antigun nutters..... with guns you have to be facing actual life threatening deadly force before you should consider arming yourself and with everything else it's actually intelligent to prepare for the worse. You can't argue with the uninformed, eh?
     
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    emptystringer Active Member Donor

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    What's wrong cupcake did I hurt you're feelings? You want to talk about respect. How about you and all other anti-gun nutters ,respect the rights given to us by our Constitution.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep it up and I'll block you. Last chance. Go ahead; make it easy for me.
     
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    emptystringer Active Member Donor

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    Hey,do what you got to do. It makes no difference to me.
     
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    Gun control is the progression of laws that aim to prohibit all firearms from civilian hands.
     
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    Gun control is the theory that it is better for a woman to be raped and strangled by a 250 lb assailant, than the assailant be dead at her feet from a gun in her possession.
     
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    Does it matter? If the person carrying a firearm is safe and sane, does it matter why she carries?

    People with concealed carry permits are generally the safest, most law abiding segment of the population. The Florida Dept. of Law Enforcement used to track in detail the crimes committed by Floridians who had carry permits. They started when the state went to "shall issue" to appease the gun banners who claimed Florida would turn into the "gunshine state" and blood would run in the streets.

    Several years ago, the FDLE quit tracking non-permit related crimes by carry holders. It wasn't worth the time and money - people with carry permits broke the law so rarely even the cops said monitoring them wasn't worth the effort.

    In fact, in safety classes, people are told to show their carry permit if stopped by a cop . That immediately puts the cop at ease, tells him you are not a felon, have had and passed a background check (not the trivial NICS check either), and are in the most law abiding segment of the population. You might even get a pass on that traffic ticket.

    Unless you are just curious, why does it matter why a person carries a fiream?
     
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    Of course it matters; even if the person is safe and sane, what's to prevent their weapon from being stolen (and used in a crime) or even worse, what's to prevent them from going postal?? How many times do you hear of a law abiding citizen who suddenly goes off the deep end and uses a gun to kill others?? That's why it matters to me.

    I realize that unless the 2nd amendment is repealed, you won't be able to prohibit ownership of weapons, but I think the government can prohibit ownership of handguns, assault weapons, automatic weapon while still meeting the test of gun ownership.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    Using the "what if" debating style is indicative of a losing argument. What if what if what if.........what if you mind your own business. What if you practice your Rights to the full extent? What if you can't call the police? What if your wife is being raped in front of your eyes and you refuse to do anything about it?
    Are you going to look her in the eye while she gets raped? Are you going to look your child in the eyes as they die because YOU failed to keep them safe?
    Yeah, what if....................
     
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    If you and the government get you're wish and are able to prohibit,hand guns,assault weapons( just a made up term by the media) and automatic weapons(which are already heavily regulated by the gov). How does this happen without violating our constitutional rights and the 2nd amendment? What guns would be ok with you to own ,if this was to happen?
     

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