What is "Gun Control?"

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by allislost, Oct 25, 2014.

  1. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    We hear about the postal people because they are so rare that it's nationwide news. Statistically, it's almost meaningless.

    Thankfully, the SCOTUS has ruled otherwise.
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    .50 Barretts are legal, and have been since the early 1980s (when they were invented). This isn't a real problem. Civilians haven't been using them to snipe at other people.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    They existed and were legal at the time. Obviously he didn't want one. As you might remember, he used a semi-automatic rifle, firing from a car trunk. That would have been impractical for the .50. The .50 is over four feet long and weighs 30 lbs.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    It's ALWAYS my business, pal.
     
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    Ah, it's a sniper rifle, the military uses it as a sniper rifle, people are often targets, and other people have used it to hit targets at a mile. Better question would be: when was the last time a hunter used it to kill a deer or a homeowner used it to protect his family jewels.
     
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    and is very loud. The high price and rarity of the .50 would make it easier to trace and therefore a poor choice for a murder weapon. Any hunting rifle of a very common caliber would be a better choice, even though you are closer to your target. Hitting a target from a mile away requires a skill that most people don't have the means to develop outside the military.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    who claimed they did?

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    are you really that concerned about getting assassinated?
     
  8. SiNNiK

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    A mile? Like 1 mile? Oh man, there is so much that you don't know. You want me to tell you something that will blow your mind? You ready?

    The lowly, tiny, little bity .22 has a range of 2, yes two, miles. Check out CCI mini mags. Why aren't you upset about. 22's?

    And "Well regulated" doesn't mean what you think it does.
     
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    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    Repealing the 2A will do nothing since it grants nothing. It merely observes the god given right.
     
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    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    You learned about the Barrett from me, didn't you?

    Haa!
     
  11. SiNNiK

    SiNNiK Well-Known Member

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    Watch this one though. A beer can at 1,130 meters. And if the anti's watch some of it they may come to a better understanding of what it takes to make these shots.

    The beer can gets it at about the 2:15 mark

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pwG-D0HjCBQ&persist_app=1&app=m
     
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    Yes. And my detail needs longer guns than my assassins have to go along with my up-armored TownCar. What do you suggest?
     
  13. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Again, when has a criminal in the U.S. used it to sniper off somebody from a thousand yards or more away? .50 barretts have been on the civilian market since they were invented in 1982 (they were a commercial product before they were military). Other .50 rifles were around before that. Please show me the crimes actually being done with these rifles.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    THIS is gun control:

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    nice grouping...........
     
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    Nice grouping ,how far where you shooting?
     
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    either move or go seek professional help
     
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    Funny. In the URL above I see that the range was 50 meters.
    I assume you fired 30 rounds at a single target:
    1.) Because you could.
    2.) To see if the gradual barrel heating would open the group up.
    3.) To see if your own fatigue would make much difference.
    More assumption: It was yer' basic M-4gery, with a 16" barrel and a red dot or similar (?)
    What is totally beyond me though is why people bother to go to all the trouble of hand loading, just to fire a FMJ. Recently, I've seen the 6,000 piece bulk pack of Hornady 55 gr. SP from Midway for $514.
    Using a SP, you effectively increase your workable range, because the SP will deform at velocities down to around 2,200 fps, while that FMJ has to hit at around 2,650+ to deform at all, thus transferring energy to the target. Hitting the target is a good start. Doing some damage is a good finish.
     
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    [video=youtube;_T-F_zfoDqI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T-F_zfoDqI#t=125[/video]
     
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    you're full of it. a ./22 lr will bounce off of a heavy coat at 1/4 mile. that is a FACT, Jack. I'll let you shoot at me all day at that distance, with such a rifle, if I am so protected. the 1.2 mile warning on the box is there because so many people can't judge distance any better than that.

    search for Fackler's work. the fmj yaws and frags down to 2200 fps, but the softpoint mushrooms down to 1800 fps. So even the 11.5" barrel will still expand a sp just fine to 200 yds or a bit further,. cause it will start a 55 gr bullet at 2750 fps. if the load is put together specifically for a short barrel. I use AA 2520

    If you'll use the 75 gr Vmax softpoiint, from Hornady, from a 24" barrel, the 223 will still expand at 500 yds, and it's got the same 500 ft lbs of power left out there that a 4" 357 has at 10 ft.
     
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    Crime stats show anyone's home can be broken into no matter what kind of neighborhood you live in.
     

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