Bill Nye critcizes GOP, parents teaching creationism

No. Evolution is accepted science.

Through studies of canary Island finches. Google it.

No there isn't.

No doubt.

Except those large amounts of time do exist enforcing the evolution model...... not our religious beliefs.

 

The 2nd law of thermodynamics states that total entropy always increases in a closed or isolated system. Earth isn't a closed or isolated system. Furthermore, even within an isolated system, there are pockets of decreased entropy that occur while the total entropy of the system increases. The natural decrease in entropy seen in a crystal is an example of that. If the universe is a closed system, Earth would be a larger example of a pocket of decreased entropy.

 

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The point being that most creationist "science" stops entirely at "God did it." There is no reason to look further for the actual explanation when credit is neatly placed on a divine being.

That is Nye's point. Creationism isn't science it doesn't look for the answers of how or why or the intricate process of events. It simply assigns credit and stops there.

That is an acceptance of ignorance and goes against everything science represents.

 

This conversation has gotten beyond ridiculous. Creationism is a belief, and science is a method. If you're interested in the way God runs the universe you could begin with a belief, but in scientific terms that would be called an hypothesis, which would then need to be tested experimentally and evaluated according to the major pillars of public science which are independent experimentation and reproducible results and consistency across geography and time, etc etc. There is overwhelming evidence for the process of biological evolution, but there is zero for a six-thousand-year-old earth. So either the creationists are making a bad assumption somewhere, or they're unwilling to admit their hypothesis doesn't pass muster. One or the other must be true.

 

I'm an atheist but I still have some thoughts on this.

What I teach my children is my business. I taught my children that the government gives you nothing with strings attacked. I taught my children that you don't vote for someone based on their color. I taught my children that faith in angels was as logical as faith in Washington.

Teach science. My god, I'd be happy if the union-dominated schools just taught all the students to read, write, and do basic math. I'd also be happy if what passes for "scientists" today learned a bit of science. Using computers to select the data points needed to prove your theory isn't science.

Liberals, those with the most obvious faith, do the most whining about science.

My first thought was, "Who is Bill Nye and why should I care?" So, I went to the internet. Aha! He's a science educator, comedian, television host, writer, scientist, and mechanical engineer. Of course, his education was in mechanical engineering. All the rest is hype. Me? I'm so old that our science educator, Richard Feynman, was actually a scientist and not a television star. Bill Nye would be the liberal "scientists". No formal education in science. Richard Feynman would be my scientist. He was a theoretical physicist and shared a Nobel Prize for something other than being a communist.

So, in answer to the question, "Who is Bill Nye and why should I care?" He's an entertainer and I don't care.

Now, you can believe in creationsim, communism, socialism, or Obama. It's all the same to me.

 

And I have given you thousands of links which you refuse to look at. Also, microevolution has been observed and even hard core creationists have to admit it unless they're complete blockheads, so if that has happened, then it's hardly a stretch for the occurrences of macroevolution. If this is currently beyond your present scope of knowledge, here's a nifty short course that will inform you.

For you and any others, here's five articles that explain evolution, thermodynamics and entropy. Enjoy the read.

 

I did not say any of that. I don't care about creationism or the creationists, it is their bogus claim that it is scientific theory.

 

Bill Nye is not alone

"The Pope Would Like You to Accept Evolution And the Big Bang"

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...cept-evolution-and-big-bang-180953166/?no-ist

"Yesterday, Pope Francis, the head of the Roman Catholic Church, said that Darwinian evolution is real, and so is the Big Bang"

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Why are you being disingenuous? You know that the problem is the fundamentalist rejection of evolution and science, not the fact that intelligent people, such as the Pope, can accept evolution as well as their belief in God. They are not mutually exclusive, except in the ignorant minds of religious fundamentalists.
Nye understands very well the dangers of such ignorant thinking being a hindrance to developing a functioning intellect and an ability to deal with the problems of the real world.
Fundamentalists fly planes into buildings. Science puts a probe on the surface of a comet 300 million miles away.

 

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You should teach the GOP

wow you really want your children to believe in the supernatural?

So like a good member of the right you want people ignorant.

You are saying there aren't scientists?

Yes and no one is doing that and getting away with it.

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You don't know who Bill Nye is?

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He is more than that, including an inventor who had something he invented go to mars and taught in the Ivy League.....but.....

You already pointed out that Nye is a scientist.

Actually yes he did, he has a science degree from Cornell a great science university.......

He was a communist???????? In fact Feynman's entire career requires that the world is far older than 6000 years. What is your point.

And yet you do

You must be the most blissful person on the planet.

 

That simply is not true. A blank unsupported "there are exceptions to every rule" is not an explanation.

 

The GOP elected the first black Senator from the south in this election, NOT the Democrats. The Democrats have still not elected a black president or vice president (Obama is half white). Want to live by the race card? Your party is dying by it!

 

What is a closed or isolated system? Science would need to falsify that hypothesis to prove it is true.

 

the fact you have to point out you elected a few black people is telling.
In fact the idea that someone is black and conservative is all it takes for the right to make him or her worthy of the Presidential ticket....hmmmm

As for the half-white comment.....you know that is racist right?

 

Black and brown students don't have the same ability as white students?

 

How is a factual statement about our president racist? YOU are the one who wants to categorize people by race, I don't and the GOP doesn't! I was just pointing out how stupid it is for YOU to do that! The fact is that the Democratic Party is the most oppressive toward blacks in recent history. Obama's Govt has them hurting more than they did under Bush, educate yourself!

 

Oh an speaking of crystals, can you answer why crystalline structures embedded within samples of granite which naturally contain uranium (the parent element) still contains measurable amounts of hydrogen atoms?

The rate of diffusion of hydrogen from uranium is a scientific quantifiable amount. If granite were billions of years in age as asserted by those believing in the evolution/big bang model the samples should contain no hydrogen as it would have dissipated within 100,000 years.

Radiometric dating techniques are assumption based on so many parameters which are scientifically proved as flawed, i.e. newly deposited volcanic basalt (less than one year) measured using RCD at 10's of millions of years old.

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Just because you refuse to believe in these things doesn't make them false. I understand that you would not believe in evolution if it came over and slapped you in the face but equating the scientific method with your creationist doctrine is ridiculous. Even the Pope understands this.

 

I did not ask for a link to a page with thousands or papers written as suppositions & opinions I asked for YOU to provide me with ONE fact.
Neither you or anyone else has provided a single fact for macro-evolution, (one kind of animal changing into another kind of animal), mutations, adaptations are facts, organisms can adapt within their limitations. You may call that evolution, but in the strictest sense of the term it is not evolution.
Show us a Finch that changed into a squirrel, or a mouse that changed (or was in the process of changing) into a bat. Where is your evidence. Without that evidence belief in evolution is blind faith, a religious belief in the strictest definition of the word.

 

Well------------I say that my ancestors were Adam and Eve----If Nye want to claim his ancestors were apes, I can believe that!!!!!

 

That's all well and good but evolution is a tiny portion of a good school curriculum. Our public schools are dominated by progressive methods and progressive content especially in the humanities and look at the test scores. Maybe there is a connection you are refusing to see. Education theoretically should be free of government force but that's another subject. If you want to teach kids how to think, a good course in logic would help and it might help insulate students from the kind of propagandizing that characterizes education at all levels and the biggest culprits are from the left not the right.

 

You said the President wasn't black....you are making rules of who is and isn't black and that is as racist as calling someone an Oreo.

Also when someone like you says educate yourself I know you don't have a clue what you are talking about because your shepherds haven't fed you enough. Perhaps one will give you quotes on their shows today.

 

I started to read your link to the evolutionist website TalkOrigins.org. I read into the second paragraph of the first article and the author's facts have been proved false immediately.

Solar energy is not sufficient for the creative process (creating one animal from another). To explain, a carpenter wants to build a house, pure electrical energy to the job site is insufficient to build the house from organic and inorganic building materials. To build the house information is required, an intelligence had to be involved in the process and a mechanism to assembly the 1,000's of materials into a functioning structure is also necessary.

Since, once again, I have been presented with the canard that only in a closed system will the 2nd Law apply. Show us a closed system to test this hypothesis, and explain how everything else in our universe abides by this law except you believe living organisms do not.

 

I'm still waiting on that "other explanation" for why....if the entire Universe was created 6000 years ago (Again, remember, the creation of the stars occurred AFTER the creation of the Earth in Genesis)....

how is it possible we can see stars MORE than 6000 lightyears away? If they were created 6000 years ago, the light from further stars (and galaxies) wouldn't have had time to reach us???

How is it we can see, say, the Andromeda Galaxy which is 2.5 Million lightyears away....if that galaxy was created in 4004 BC??? (Bishop Ussur's date, for example)

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Whenever you see a Rightwinger say "Obama is only half-black" or say "He's half-white"...ask them a simple question and watch them dodge it...

"If Barack Obama were alive in Montgomery, Alabama in 1955....where would he get to sit on a city bus...."in the middle"?"

 

Wrong again, I said I would not give a degree in science if the person does not believe in the facts that the science proves, has zero to do with their religious beliefs. Let's say you are Engineer and yet you do not believe in Ohm's Law, how on earth could anyone consider the a qualified Engineer? The answer is they could not. The fact of the matter is science does not discount the existence of GOD, for me it only shows the true wonder of HIS works and it is surprising how often the two compliment each other, just as when a scientist starts a growth in a dish knowing what will develop, GOD knew what he was creating when he started the wheels in motion here and in the Universe, is that too deep for you to grasp?