Bill Nye critcizes GOP, parents teaching creationism

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  1. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    your ignorance is stunning..........the fact that you won't read anything I send you proves it is willful.
     
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    You cannot answer my logical question on astronomy.....you've shown nothing.
     
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    Haven't seen the party market her as black, the media tends to fixate on these things though.
     
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    A zoologist, especially an ornithologist, can NOT believe that the Bible is literally true.

    Do you know why?

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    You've seen NOBODY in the Republican Party or Rightwing Media discuss the "historic significance" of Mia Love, an African-American female Republican being elected to Congress???

    Odd???
     
  5. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    No it is you who said he wasn't really black........

    No I was giving an example of racism.

    You don't seem to know what words mean.

    virtually no one in the US is likely 100% black. You were the one who called his blackness into question.

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    Actually your statements point to how ridiculous and stupid someone else is..........

    Again I am not sure that Obama's race was the selling point, at least not with me.

    How is he like Jimmy Carter........(this should be fun)

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    really you haven't...........so you are ignorant of many things.
     
  6. Micketto

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    I grew up with God and science. One doesn't cancel out the other.

    Nye isn't even a scientist, he's a Mechanical Engineer.

    He's become irrelevant since his goofy kid's show was canceled, and misses the attention.

    I never understood why some people make it such a mission to downplay something they claim they don't believe in.
    The religion forum here is full of those people.
     
  7. NaturalBorn

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    re·li·gion

    noun\ri-ˈli-jən\
    : the belief in a god or in a group of gods
    : an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies, and rules used to worship a god or a group of gods

    : an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

    From Wikipedia:
    A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.[SUP][note 1][/SUP] Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories (billions of years) that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life (evolution) or the Universe (Big Bang). From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle.

    *italics are mine

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    Prove me wrong in your own words. Answer my questions if you can. If not, you may sit down now.

     
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    rwild1967 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Are we even having the same conversation here? You have provided exactly zero evidence of anything except your own stubbornness. Many people, myself included, have provided overwhelming evidence for evolution which you simply refuse to believe or refute with semantics and a grade school understanding of the topic.

    And you call fact and evidence based science a belief system as if it requires nothing but faith like your fairytails? You have been totally indoctrinated by the church and are a lost cause. Good day sir.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    You just called her black more than I've heard all Republicans combined.
     
  10. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    I never thought that was a serious question. A child can come up with a hypothesis to answer your burning question. Can't you?

     
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    People have posted examples of closed systems already. Either leave the debate or acknowledge that you claim about the 2nd LoT has been defeated.
     
  13. NaturalBorn

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    Then you haven't been paying attention.

    NO evidence has been provided. Speculation, assumptions, opinions all, but NO scientific verifiable facts., NONE. You all are really looking foolish avoiding the obvious conclusion that there is no scientific evidence proving the amoeba to man evolution model or the Big Bang story.
     
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    I believe in both. And I don't believe that one precludes a belief in the other. I don't remember in all my years in church where any minister preached that the world began when Christ was born. I always understood that it had been around LONG before God sent his only son to mingle with humans.

    One thing scientist can do is tell us the mechanics of how this planet began. I pick up fossils on my property all the time that have been here for most likely hundreds of thousands of years. IMHO, most people do not believe that humans were created out of mere happenstance. Which brings us back to...."who started it all?" And why?
     
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    No they have not. A story about a motor and a battery is no closed system. Admit your lack of scientific evidence and move on.

     
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    It's exactly a closed system as defined by science.
     
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    One of the things I value most is personal honesty and integrity.

    The simple truth is that your scientific arguments are wrong. Not "maybe," not "possibly," but absolutely.

    If you want to reject scientific evidence, do so. But at least be willing to admit it.
     
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    What church preaches that Jesus was the first man or that he was created in the beginning? You may assume the fossil was formed last week if you wish, but that does not make it true, but that is all it is is an assumption. That is all the evolution scientists have are assumptions about the billions of fossils they have unearthed. All they can know for certain is the animal was alive, died and was rapidly buried.


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    Impossible. Show me where you vaulted scientists have stated that.

     
  19. Questerr

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    This is the part where I post a link and then you either ignore it or twist what it says. You are a prime example of a Creationist: a "Liar for Jesus" to whom facts don't matter so long as your lies convince one more person to become a Christian.
     
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    You can verify all the scientific evidences I have posted thus far. Do you want to discuss one of the scientific arguments in specific?


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    Don't post a link to someone else's opinion, tell me in your own words if you are able. No one here has done this, except for the motor battery machine.

     
  21. Troianii

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    Context matters, dude. another poster said that evolution is not a belief, it's "accepted science". I pointed out that that's a distinction without a difference - evolution is still a belief, despite the connotations you or others may want to add to it.
     
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    Case in point .
     
  23. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Quoting a dictionary is the sign of a failed argument..........

    I have answered your questions.

    Evolution is a fact.........the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection explains how it happens. No idiot can simply cut and paste that into not being true.

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    If Evolution is a belief then so is gravity.
     
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    Alright, what about mutation and genetic drift?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_drift

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    They would only be absurd if they lacked evidence.
     
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    Facts and observations take precedence over a story told to teach about God (not science and history) to barely post-nomadic people. The Book of Genesis is not literally true. I believe death in the Bible refers to the soul, not the body.


    I believe that God created the universe and it's laws. Life is something that occurred as the result of that. Of course, God created life, but the way He did it looks the same as the way science says it happened.
     

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