Republicans Weigh Government Shutdown to Stop Obama on Amnesty

Is that all?

Please provide a link detailing everything the Emperor plans to unilaterally impose on everyone.

 

I am giving you a specific example of an executive action Obama could take on immigration....telling the immigration agents to go to "deferred action" on kids who came here illegally at the age of 12 or younger.


Now...you tell me a specific thing the GOP Congress could do....or 'threaten' to do...to stop him?

 

I didn't ask for an example of something Obama could do. I asked for a link detailing everything the Emperor plans to unilaterally impose on everyone.

You seem to be in possession of information that the Emperor has decided to keep from the public. Give us all the specifics, Cap'n Inside Info.

 

What do you think OBAMA is doing to further HIS agenda? He is purposely flaunting it in the Republicans' face when, clearly, he doesn't have the confidence or the mandate from the people any more. He cannot just do what he likes on his own and break the law. He can't go rogue. Why don't you call him up and reason with him because at this point, he is acting irrationally. The people don't like him or his policies. The sooner he wraps his head around that fact, the better.

 

I wonder if shutting down the country over illegal immigration will include shutting down funding for the border patrol agents.

 

What agenda, oh mean dealing with the Millions that have grown up here or have lived here for many years, that agenda? He is not breaking the law, you might want to learn what his powers are and are not, just because you do not like what he will do if your guys do not do their job does not equate to him breaking the law it only equates to you being a sore loser. No he is acting as rationally as anyone else, more so that those that say they might shut down the government if he uses his executive powers because they cannot stop him in any other way. I doubt he cares what the right thinks about anything at this point, he is not up for re-election and there really is not much the Cons can do about it, it is them that must deal with him or they end up looking like the bad guys and it is just making the Cons crazier to have to be in that position. Ask me if I care.

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They have already refused to give them further funding by sitting on the Bill for over 17 months, it is just that the sheeple are too stupid to realize that fact.

 

So the GOP would only react if Obama did EVERYTHING he had planned.....ONE thing wouldn't "set them off"? They'd ignore it?

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You can just SEE that "visual", huh?

The GOP shuts down the Government....and Border Patrol guys get furloughed.

Utter brilliance...I hope McConnell ignores his own intelligence and listens to the ditto-heads.

 

See there you go again, a foreigner who knows nothing about our government. The Republicans are NOT in a position do something about it not. Not YET, the new congress does not get sworn in until after the first of the year. That is why they are asking Obama to wait, wait for the new Congress to be sworn in. That is why Obama is saying he is not going to, because he is playing political games and bringing on a constitutional crisis.

 

What about them? Which ones violated the Constitution?

 

Don't be so sure and no everything is not off the table, just set aside for now. If Obama pushes it to a constitutional crisis they may very well be forced to act.

So tell do you support Obama doing such a thing?

They could do so in a reconciliation and continuing resolution, there are all sorts of tactics they could use even if it is just to delay it until the new Congress is in place and then they will have some Democrat support and perhaps even some party switching going on.

It could come to a court action.

So do tell me what do we do about a lawless President who is willing violate the Constitution and declare HE makes the law as HE sees fit?

 

What border patrol agents? There aren't any! Your fool president refuses to enforce the law.

 

The President may issue "orders" regarding the structure of the Executive Branch (for instance, creating a new cabinet position), and, he may issue "orders" pertaining to regulations which are within his jurisdiction, for instance EPA/FDA/DEA etc.

However, the president may not make law. He is explicitly forbidden from doing so.

But before we get to that part - you speak of the Constitution. Well, have you checked Article 2 Clause 5? The President must faithfully execute the existing laws. That is his job. He is not allowed to choose which laws he wishes to enforce.

Now - back to the issue of making law. Immigration law and immigration policy is specifically in the hands of our Congress, according to Article I Section 8 of our Constitution. If the president tries to make immigration law he is usurping the powers of Congress, and any such attempt is not only illegal and un-Constitutional, it's a direct violation of the Oath of Office.

 

Cut the funding and plop the budget on his desk. Then Obama can decide to sign it and keep the Government open or veto it and shut the Government down.

 

I wasn't fooled by the lies, you were. A sensible person would learn from that experience.

 

Really? There are NO border patrol agents??? So who were those guys in uniform we kept seeing on Fox a few months ago???

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Cut the funding for what...specifically?

And how did the LAST Government Shutdown work out for you guys??? Calgary Ted got to promote himself.....and the GOP saw their approval polls hit a RECORD LOW of 28% it took months to recover form.

 

For those parts of the government used to implement Obama's illegal unconstitutional power grab...specifically.

 

republicans just won the last election and already they are talking about shutting down the government, crazy

 

They will not shut down the government, Republican lobbyists are business people who profit from the cheap labor of immigrants.

 

So they'd cut funding to the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services?

 

"For those parts of the government used to implement Obama's illegal unconstitutional power grab...specifically."

 

Yes, and one of the actions discussed that the President might do, is tell the immigration agents to go to "deferred action" (no deporation) of say, children who came here under the age of 12 illegally.

So.....the GOP would have to CUT THE ENTIRE BUDGET of the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services ....wouldn't they?

 

For those parts of the government used to implement Obama's illegal unconstitutional power grab. That's your third chance. Now you are out.

 

For anything Obama Amnesty related.

You need to ask that of Obama. He would be shutting the Government down. Obama can decide to sign the budget and keep the Government open or veto it and shut the Government down. Is there some part of that you don't understand?

 

Of course we can expect the Repubs to totally screw this but, with the majority of the nation NOT behind amnesty (Rasmussn reports 62% against) and Congress submits a bill to fund the gov'ment but defund appropriations to implement the Prez's amnesty plan...then it's totally on the Prez when vetoing and shutting down the gov'ment.

That is all the Congress has to message.

 

there is not constitutional crisis as executive action is entirely legal as is the "deferred action" category of immigrants, which has been the law of the land since (IIRC) the mid 70's. Might want to look up the executive actions that Reagan took in this regard.

the congress doesn't get sworn in until next year, but I believe the current congress is still in session?
Are you suggesting that congress shouldn't serve their full terms? Perhaps this calls for a constitutional amendment.

And as for playing political games, isn't that essentially what has been going on for decades in Washington? I guess 51 votes to repeal/defund Obamacare isn't playing a political game, nor is threatening the good name and credit of the nation, nor is shutting down the government for no national benefit.

As to the fact I'm only a foreigner. Nice display of not focusing on the issue but merely attempting to discredit my observation.

Gee wasn't that the point of my original post? YES!