Harry S. Truman Decided To Nuke Hiroshima And Nagasaki

Harry had big balls. He made that decision by himself after being our president for a mere three months. He was responsible for the creation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and National Security Council (NSC), the recognition of the State of Israel, the response to the Cold War and our involvement in the Korean War.

Who knows what he was thinking....he was pretty much a loner and he's been dead for 43 years so we'll never know. Of one thing we can be sure. Back in the 40's and 50's we ran our business a lot differently than now.....most of the rest of the civilized world does too....thank goodness.

I remember the morning they announced that Roosevelt had died. I was in the fifth grade and every child in that classroom cried as well as our teacher. The reaction to his death among adults was almost unbelievable seeing as how he had been sick all his life. I guess that kind of reaction to his death is why he was elected four times.

 

The fool we have in the whitehouse today pales in comparison to Truman. While im not a great fan of Truman at least he was willing to protect his troops. The A-bomb probably saved the life of one of my brothers.

 

How predictable. The first sentence in the first post in reply to a completely and utterly unrelated topic has to go on an Obamahate rant.

Normal Person: Good afternoon!
True Patriot: Not as long as that stinkin' black Commie Muslim traitor is in the Oval Office!
Normal Person: Well, have a nice day, Reverend!


I have quite a bit of experience with Japanese society, culture and history. I also think Harry S. made the right call. That view has led to some interesting and spirited discussions here.

 

You weren't old enough to remember that other than the Bomb, conservatives fought every one of these things.

 

Considering that it is now known that he deliberately targeted civilians to inflict psychological terror, I think Truman's actions were contemptible.

 

It was the right decision, to drop the bombs. History shows us, as VP, Truman knew NOTHING about the Manhattan project until he was thrust into the POTUS. To go from ignorance, to giving the green light on it's use was no easy decision. But estimates on Allied loss of life for the alternative was probably what drove the decision.

Ultimately, dropping those bombs, instead of invading, probably aided in Japan's recovery.... had we invaded to win, it would have become another pawn in the cold war with a North and south Japan, split democracy/communist country. Ultimately, they were able to reestablish themselves without the chess match that held Vietnam, Korea, and Germany back for so long.

this is why I believe, pusy footing around during war and avoiding hard decisions, isn't the way to do things. We needed to drop that bomb. Today..... we wouldn't, and wars get stretched out way beyond what they should because we are too afraid to make tough decisions.

 

How do you defeat terrorism by murdering a city full of innocent civilians?

 

Johnny come lately types that try to say Truman was wrong have no business doing so. Unless you were in the military during WWII your opinion is pretty much worthless. You were not there, you had no skin in the game, so while you can have your sniviling opinion it isnt worth a bucket of kitty litter used!!!!!!

 

He may have made the right call, but was it a morally righteous call? It definitely ended the war faster, and from that standpoint yes it was the right call. But the collateral damage was devastating, with tens of thousands of Japanese sick from what we now know to be cancerous-causing chemicals.(among other things). Which is why no sane person would fire a nuclear warhead ever again.

Not unless we want no place to live. To be fair to Truman, as these were the first bombs they had no way of knowing how absolutely devastating these weapons would be. So in a way, though it would cost more American Lives it'd be more moral to finish the war through the air.

We had air supremacy, we could've easily bombarded strategic key points and ammunition's. We could've made them sitting ducks after a formal invasion.(Basically, imagine what the Russians did in Berlin in 1945. That was an option available to us)

However, I couldn't be prouder and happier to have Japan as our allies, as we've been allies for the most part since Commodore Perry. Spiritually, the ethic of hard work, perseverance and their technological savvy meshes well with our own culture. The Sakura Blossoms are also one of my all-time favorite trees.

We fought a 3-yr war(1942-1945) and we'll never fight one ever again. We're as close as brothers. An alliance with a 90% approval rating. I'll do my part to keep these relations outstanding.

 

I remember it all. When Roosevelt made his declaration of war speech on the 8th of Dec. 1941 my uncles put up a 100 ft. long wire outside to serve as an antenna so we could gather around an old battery powered RCA console radio and listen to it. Are you foolish enough to doubt that everyone, young and old are impacted by that kind of event? It's indelibly etched onto my memory. Speak for yourself peckerhead!!

 

Many of us beyond the propaganda know that Truman made the right decision to use the two nukes on Japan. It was estimated that there would be half a million KIA and a lot more WIA Americans if we invaded Japan. After action reports confirmed that fact. As it was the fire bombing of Tokyo was worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki

 

Morally righteous? We discussed that for years in classes. Depends on several definitions, all of which are too long to get into here. After living for decades in Japan, speaking, writing, reading Japanese, having Japanese family, grad degree in East Asian Studies, published papers/articles on same same, etc I'm more convinced than ever that Harry S. made the right call. But again, the reasoning - beyond the obvious historical facts - is too laboured to get into on this site.

 

Geez I thought everyone knew that. We make every act of terrorism so painful to their own people that they force the radicals to give up. I'm surprised that I had to actually say it.

 

Truman dropped the bomb mainly to show the Russians what it could do and that he would do it if they made him. It really had little to do with the Japanese.

 

I believe that sounds very farfetched. Japan was a formidable foe, and Truman had his hands full. While a show of power to Russia may have been a tangential benefit to dropping the bomb, there is no way he was looking ahead to the next game as his prime objective..

 

Back then they cried because FDR passed away, today we cry because he existed at all.

 

People that rant against us dropping the A-bombs seem to know little history. Do they know that when we invaded Okinawa kamakazis sank 36 American ships? How many ships do they think would have been sunk if the Nov invasion of the main lands had take place? Would they be ok with maybe HALF A MILLION AMERICANS being killed during that invasion? Sorry latter day nay sayers, Truman did the right thing. Like the radical muslim terrorist of today at that time we were dealing with radical jap military officers. It took the huge show of force to get them to stop the war.

 

It's a pity you can't talk to some of the infantry troops and marines who had to move onshore to retake the island strongholds, Guam, Iwo Jima, Wake Island, etc. that Japanese garrisons had established during the early years of the war. I'm sure all who survived that hell would have told you screw Russia, bomb them for us. By the way...we wouldn't have been able to win in Germany without Russia. The problems started after Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin met in Yalta to divide the spoils. Roosevelt was dying and Churchill had just finished a mind boggling struggle and wasn't much better...Russia never took part and any of the war in Asia yet Stalin managed to draw lines in Korea, Vietnam etc. which later required more lost American lives. General Patton wanted to fight the Russians before we even brought all the troops back home.....might have had something to do with him showing up dead.

 

I made no mention of using the nuke to defeat terrorism. I was referring to how dropping the nuke on Japan was the right decision for WWII.


we were not in a politically correct war back then though either. Now, if you splash too much water on a prisoner's face, it's called torture, which is why we will never win a war again if we allow ourselves to be tethered by politics on the battlefield.

allowing terrorists to hide in Mosques (where we aren't allowed to engage them or it's a court marshall) while they continue to shoot at us is crap I'm talking about.... but when citizens stop harbouring terrorists because they risk getting obliterated.... the terrorrists become easier to find because towns won't hide them out.

 

i did not agree with any of FDR's progressive ideas.... but IDC who the POTUS is... I will mourn the death of them when they die in office..... even Obama's.

 

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/06/the-man-who-survived-two-nuclear-bomb-attacks/

 

Yes, yes, yes, that is all very fine and well but I'm wondering how are you going to incorporate the nuclear bombings into your daily Black Crime Report.

 

When has that ever worked in history?

The Nazis leveled the Warsaw Ghetto and murder tens of thousands of innocent in France, Holland, and the Baltic states for ever one of their soldiers killed. Attacks only increased.

The Soviets tried hostage taking and executions of Muj families in Afghanistan, it didn't work. It only made them more hated.

 

impressive.... even in a thread about Japanese, nukes and terrorism, you still find something to be offended by as a black man. Race-baiting level 100

 

"Splashing water" on a prisoner's face was called torture back then too. We executed Japanese soldiers for water boarding American POWs.