Is Hillary done?

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It didn't become illegal to use your personal e-mail account while conducting official government business until 2009.

    But what the hell, before 2009 only Congress could write immigration laws and the executive branch (POTUS) under the Constitution was required to enforce those laws.

    A lot has changed during the past six years. It's starting to look like Congress no longer has a purpose. POTUS can do it all. After Congress, Obama has his eyes on SCOTUS. Then Obama can say "mission accomplished."
     
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    No she is not done, In fact her stock went up. The more you lie, cheat, deceive the better. She is just what democrats are looking for in a candidate.

    She will lay low and allow her minions will gladly do her dirty work.
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    He'll have my help there. The SCOTUS has been very political, and the politicization of the courts has me losing faith in them as an institution. See: The ACA. What people neglect is that Kagan, a known supporter of the law did not recuse herself from the ruling. If the courts cannot be vested to be independent, maybe lawmakers should be the ones to decide how the law is carried out.
     
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  6. Rainbow Crow

    Rainbow Crow New Member Past Donor

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    Hey, anyone remember when Sarah Palin got laid into for using a Yahoo! email address?

    This is basically the same thing only Yahoo is probably more secure than Hillary's home-based service and Sarah Palin was still just a candidate.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    your gonna compare owning a slave to know having an official email account?

    I am not sure what law was past in 2009, or how vague it was... guess time will tell

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  8. APACHERAT

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    I just heard some scuttlebutt and it doesn't look good for Hillary, there's a Muslim Brotherhood connection. It seems Hillary's top aid Huma Abedin also used Hillary's personal e-mail account while conducting business.
    http://gawker.com/source-top-clinton-aides-used-secret-email-accounts-at-1689246408

    Huma Abedin has family connections with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    >" Daughter of Saleha Mahmood Abedin, a pro-Sharia sociologist with ties to numerous Islamist organizations including the Muslim Brotherhood
    Longtime assistant to Hillary Clinton
    Wife of former congressman Anthony Weiner
    Longtime former employee of the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs, which shares the Muslim Brotherhood's goal of establishing Islamic supremacy and Sharia Law worldwide..."<

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2556

    Hillary Clinton's top aid has Muslim Brotherhood connections while Obama's top aid Valerie Jarrett has connections to Iran.

    It keeps getting better.
     
  9. justlikethat

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    LOL I don't think so skippy.

    I was comparing what was legal once doesn't mean it's legal today.
     
  10. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Side drifting but it was FDR who was first President to start stacking the Supreme Court with political activist judges who would legislate from the bench to get his unconstitutional legislation into law.
     
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    have you seen this new 2009 law yet, I have not, so I can not say if she broke the law or not.....

    "Nobody Can Figure Out Whether Hillary Broke the Law with Personal Email Account"

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/nobo...ry-broke-the-law-with-personal-email-account/

    "&#8220;At the time Clinton was Secretary, the Federal Records Act didn&#8217;t require federal employees to use government accounts, only to preserve records of their communications,&#8221; the Daily Beast&#8217;s Michael Tomasky wrote. &#8220;This, Clinton seems to have done.&#8221;"

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    Its not the GOP Hillary needs to worry about it is the other democrats that will be running for the democrat nomination that will hound her on this
    If she couldn't beat a no name junior congressman with no scandals hanging around her neck what makes you think she could do it this time
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if there is one email on her personal account of classified information she is guilty of a crime the same crime gen. petraeus just got charged with. improper securing of classified
    information and keeping them at an unauthorized location. and if she exclusively used her personal e-mail there will be classified information there is no way there wouldn't be
     
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    Makes me wonder if the Clinton Foundation received money from Egpyt while the Muslim Brotherhood was in charge...
     
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    Find a new candidate, Clinton's toast. Obama overstepping his authority on immigration didn't sit well with voters, not Hillary is showing she thinks she's above the law too. Few will vote for that.
     
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    Hillary isn't done because she has millions of supporters who want to see a woman president (a point she has openly mentioned as being one of her selling points), the same way millions wanted to see a black president.
     
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    your dreaming... lol, these new rules were vague and updated after she was no longer in office, she did nothing wrong and nothing her predecessor under Bush did not do
     
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    She is a clinton. Progressive royalty. The Americans should be begging to kiss her feet as the peasants she sees us as. She is above the law and answers to no one.
     
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    Liberals will hold to the letter of the law, but only when the spirit of the law does not suit them. Common sense would hold that email and other electronic 'documents' are indeed 'documents' that fall under the auspices of the statues, even if their nature is not specifically stated. The typical Clintonian need to define what 'IS' is.
     
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    NYT work for you? They're the one's broke the story.

    I don't think any one think there is anyone thing that would sink HMS Hillary but the aggregate baggage is going to be a turn off to anyone not already a shrillary puppet like say BWK.
     
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    Of course that would depend if she complied with the Federal Record-keeping Regulations in place at the time.

    I guess if she runs would be up to her "big money" campaign donors wouldn't it. If they feel she's damaged goods bad enough they'd have to spend tens of millions more just to get her elected, she may go under the wheels of the campaign donation bus.
     
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    I don't know , but I'll bet if you put her, Jeb Bush, and Colin Powell in a room together, I'll bet they can tell you why. But they may ask you, how come this is an issue now.
     
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    Three years in prison, that would be a felony, a high crime not a misdemeanor.
     
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    To start, I am not one of the standard board members that is auditioning for foxnews or msnbc so throwing out members of the other party doing the same thing does not change my point of view. To answer your question why is this an issue now? It is an issue now because as I said before what she did was in my opinion bad judgement for a Secretary of State. Just because members of the other party did it does not make it a case for GOOD judgement. But to satisfy your partisan need I will address both concerns as wll as I know it.

    1. Colin Powell. I only went to read his statements about his use of a personel email account prior to writing this reply so my knowledge of the issue is limited. In my opinion use of a personal email account by a secretary of state is also bad judgement. Does a personal email account mean he also ran his on home email servers? The 2 situation are different and the risk associated with each are also different. Running your own email server out of your home is vastly different to me but again I do not know the full details.

    2. Jeb Bush. To start he was a Govenor and not a Secretary of State so the risk of losing national secrets to enemies of the US is perhaps less but regardless the same rules should apply to all politicians. His email server was stored in a goverment building which means it may have been serviced and maintained by goverment IT staff which may lessen some of the risk but more details are necessary to determine the full impact of his actions.

    Unless people are choosing to look the other way simply because they support her political ambitions I do not see how a impartial person cannot agree that what she did is crazy. How do you answered the questions I asked? What about additional questions like:

    1. Who fixes or upgrades her home server? Does she call GEEK squad or some kid next door? Do these people have clearance to view the information on her computer?
    2. Friends and employees in or visiting the household. How secure is the computer?
    3. How does she back up the data? Is the back up off site? If her house burns down how is the data recovered and how quickly?
    4. Do other people use the server? Is Bill or Chelsea playing games or browsing the internet on the computer?

    My company makes us consider these type of issues for our computer access and my jobs is no where as an inviting target as information from a Secretary of State.
     

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