Report - Pedophilia more common among "gays"

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  1. Countryford

    Countryford Member

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    Pedophilia is something we as a country need to address. However targeting a specific group because some made up statistics point to them as the group as doing the crime, is wrong.
     
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    I absolutely agree that it must be addressed and getting to the root cause is a good thing

    It also makes sense to begin with the "low hanging fruit" and statistics, as troubling as they are, show that homosexuals is a good place to start given the high ratio of homosexual pedophilia to adult homosexuals

    The positive takeaway here is that we are in agreement that pedophilia must be addressed. A pragmatic person would say that it's easier to start by targeting the 7 million adult homsoexuals who account for 1 million pedophilia cases as opposed to the 221 million heterosexual adults who account for 2 million cases.

    As a dad, as a coach, as a volunteer, I deal with many children and all are precious. Any steps to reduce the amount of cases would be a good thing
     
  3. Robert Barney

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    Let's check the top 10 child molestation cases, turned up using www.news.google.com. I'm sure we can all agree that google is a bastion of right wing propaganda.

    1. http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/cr...-carry-108-year-sentence-for-Elkhart-man.html

    clearly heterosexual, man molests girl

    2. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...e-and-elm-guest-house-in-london-31121971.html

    clearly homosexual molestation, boy molested by man (or in this case, men)

    3. http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/cr...Elkhart-man-for-2011-incident-police-say.html

    clearly heterosexual, man molests girl

    4. http://www.rochesterhomepage.net/st...-child-molestati/16517/n0mbL-gZNkuhl1SAejT57w

    note, this article does not identify the sex of the victims, almost a clear signal it was homosexual. I searched for another article, and found this:

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/n...ildren-including-his-son-and-daughter-114124/

    which says:

    The pastor's son, George, who said he was molested as a child, told News 4 that he commended the actions of those who had accused his father.

    5. http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/va...d_molester_to_cross-examine_child_victims.php

    clearly heterosexual, man molests girl

    6. http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/...-150-years-for-child-molesting-298801351.html

    clearly heterosexual, man molests girl

    7. http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollyw...200m-to-silence-20-child-molestation-victims/

    Michael Jackson - molested boys - clearly homosexual

    8. http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/cr...n-molested-two-young-children-police-say.html

    man molests boy and girl - homosexual (watch our homosexual supporters say he isn't)

    9. http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/cr...ster-charged-with-molesting-Elkhart-girl.html

    heterosexual - man molests girl

    10. http://www.wesh.com/news/man-molest...d-her-into-lake-mary-home-police-say/32092406

    heterosexual - man molests girl

    Summary, in the top 10 stories above, 4 of the 10 were homosexual molestations and yet we are told 3% of the population is homosexual. Looks disproportionate to me.

    Homosexual: a person who engages in homosexual activity

    Adulterer: a parson who engages in adulterous activity

    Liar: a person who lies
     
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    statistics confirm what you went and found on your own. In your 10 cases, qty 6 were heterosexual pedophilia and the larger share. The issue is that a vastly larger portion of the population 96.4% are heterosexual, and homosexuals are around 3% with a small portion of the population being "other" such as cross-dressers, necrophiliacs etc.

    It's easier to begin with a smaller subsection of the population and if 7 million people account for 1 million of the cases, then it's easier to start there than 221 million people who account for 2 million cases.
     
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    No body is making up statistics. You just have a different definition of homosexual or bisexual
     
  6. Countryford

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    Just because a male molests a boy doesn't mean that the male is a homosexual. That is what we are trying to say. And don't give me that crap about "male on male sex=homosexual sex". These 4 out of 10 cases that were reported(I'll be honest, that I didn't read them). How many of them were married and had a family of their own? That would make them hetrosexual according to your statistics of 3% of the population is homosexual. How many of those 4 actually identified as homosexual or (with the exception of the pedophile) engaged in a homosexual relation?
     
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    so, male on male sex is now considered heterosexual sex?

    just because I stole an automobile doesn't make me a thief
     
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    And yet again you do not understand that it is the ATTRACTION and not the ACT that defines their sexual orientation. Why do you continue to post lying comments and continue to be dishonest? Is it because you keep getting proven wrong? You have proven you don't undestand sexuality at all. Typical uneducated cons.
     
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    is male on male sex homosexual-sex ?
     
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    Wellllll . . . it is unless these weird people have once again moved the definition goal post.
     
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    you have yet to describe homosexual sex. What is the difference in the actual act of a male doing anal to a female and a male doing anal to a male?

    Your obsession with anal and homosexual sex aside, it is still the attraction he defines a sexual orientation and not the sexual act. Your uneducated responses will continue to be called out as such. As well as your lying comments. Typical dishonesty in cons. They have proven to be liars.
     
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    Yeah, we know that's what you are trying to say. Typical liberal re-definition of terminology and liberal denial. And Bill didn't think it was sex to get a BJ in the White House. Right.
     
  13. Robert Barney

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    More liberal bull shiite. And of course no one can really know what another person is thinking or feeling, so they get to declare one day they are gay, and another day that they are straight, and can routinely switch if/when it's convenient.

    Tiring liberal dribble.
     
  14. Countryford

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    Let me try and break this down as simple as I can so that you might be able to understand this.

    A man has an attraction to a female. He is a hetrosexual. He marrys a female, he has sex with that femal, they have children. He identifies as a hetrosexual male. Now that guy molests a child(male or female) he is still a hetrosexual but also a pedophile.

    Now a man has an attraction to men. He is a homosexual. He marrys a male, he has sex with that male. He identifies as a homosexual. Now that guy molests a child (male or female) he is still a homosexual but also a pedophile.

    Now a man has an attraction to both men and women. He is a bisexual. He marrys either a male or a female. They have sex. He identifies as a bisexual. Now he molests a child(male or female) he is still a bisexual but also a pedophile.

    Now out of those 10 guys(without looking at the gender of the child) how man of them identify themselves as Hetrosexual, Homosexual, or Bisexual?

    The statistics that say 3% of the population is homosexual, is actually 3% of the population identify themselves as homosexuals.
     
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    Lets look at the case of Jerry Sandusky. He had a wife and children(foster/adopted). He identified himself as a hetrosexual male. He is now in prison for molesting, who knows how many, boys. Why did he choose boys? I don't know. It could be he likes boys over girls, it could be the boys are the ones he went for because he was around so many of them and therfore it was easy access. Either way he wouldn't fall into that 3% catagory since he doesn't identify as a homosexual.
     
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    And I am calling bullshiite right there. If the guy you have described has sex with a male child, he's a homosexual.

    See, here's how it works, if the guy has sex with another woman, he's an adulterer. If he lies, he's a liar. Get it?

    Yeah, I know you don't. You do, but you're lying about it.

    The law is simple. Commit a felony, and you're a felon.

    But *******s want to redefine everything. Why? So they don't have to feel bad about the bad stuff that they are doing and advocating that others do.
     
  17. Countryford

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    If a man has sex with an adult female and sex with a male child(not at the same time), what does that make him?

    No one is saying they shouldn't pay for doing the crime. The only thing we are arguing is the figures of 1/3 or 1/4 of child molestors are from 3% of the population.
     
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    Simple questions:

    Is someone who commits a felony, a felon?

    Is someone who lies a liar?

    Is a married person who has sex with another person an adulterer?
     
  19. Countryford

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    Yes, yes, and yes.
     
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    Since you like to equate homosexuality with the sex act.
    When a male(adult or child) is raped by a male. Is the victim a homosexual?

    Homosexuality has to deal with the attraction and not the act. I'm attracted to others of the same sex, that makes me a homosexual. Wheather I act on that attraction or not, I am still a homosexual.

    An adult who is attracted to a child is a pedophile(doesn't matter the gender of the adult or the child). Wheather or not they act on it, they are still a pedophile.
     
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    which shows that the 33% that gays commit, should actually be higher than that because gays are quick to distance themselves from Sandusky. But he inserted his penis into a male..... that's gay. That male was 13ish.... that's child molestation.... yet somehow, to gaygenda... that's not gay childmolestation.... HUH?



    Funny how a man can be gay and married to a woman.... but in the closet.... until a crime happens.... then, the fact he's married means he's heterosexual, so don't count that on the stats that gays do....
     
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    You are confused. The 3% of the population is those who identify as homosexual. Since Jerry Sandusky and other pedophiles do not identify as homosexual the do not fall in that 3%. Are you fowllowing along? The real statistic is 3% of the population identify themselves as homosexual. Now if we went with the % of the population that has had a homosexual experience(male on male or female on female), that % would be a lot higher. Not everone who has a homosexual experience identify themselves as a homosexual.
    Now your claim of 33% of the pedophiles are homosexual, is that whoever did that is looking at the gender of the victim. If you want to get factual numbers, conduct scientific research and determine of the pedophiles, which ones are actual homosexual and which ones are hetrosexual. There have been studies(posted here) where they have conducted scientific studies. Hooking up a machine to individuals, showing that person pictures of nude males, nude females. Once they showed the pictures the reaction was studied as to if the person showed(sorry for the lack of scientific words) interest. If a man shows interest in a male, he is a homosexual, in a female he is a hetrosexual.
     
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    Stop right there. You are making the definition something that is an option or something that I invented. It's what is defined by law. A homosexual is a person who commits an act of homosexuality. Two willing partners, two homosexuals.

    No. An a married woman who is raped is not an adulteress, unless you're a Muslim.

    Complete and utter liberal bullshiite.

    No it doesn't. A male attracted to other males, but who does NOT acts on that, and does not engage in homosexual relations, is NOT a homosexual.

    More liberal BS. In other words, if you are attracted to a person of the same sex, you are now a homosexual (which you aren't) and so you might as well act on it anyway because acting on the impulse doesn't make any difference. You sound like a teenager trying to get his girlfriend in the sack.

    Yes, no one is disputing that. But if the child (victim) is of the same sex, then the act is a homosexual act and the perpetrator is therefore a homosexual.

    Your tortured logic (which isn't logic at all) is nothing but a rationalization to make what is wrong right.
     
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    Jerry Sandusky loses the right to deny identifying as gay when he sticks penis in boy....


    If I don't "identify" as an adulteror despite cheating on my wife.... does it make me correct in how I choose to label myself.
     
  25. Countryford

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    As I keep trying to point out to you, but you seem to keep failing to catch is the statistic of 3% of the population is homosexual is actually 3% of the population IDENTIFY themselves as homosexual. That means there are many people out there who do not IDENTIFY as a homosexual, who have participiated in some sort of homosexual relations. Then in that case it should be 50% of the population is homosexual(because they have particpiated in some sort of homosexaul activity.)
     
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