Report - Pedophilia more common among "gays"

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    How do you know? I don't recall him ever identifying his sexual orientation. Maybe he adopted his kids because he doesn't have sex with his wife. Maybe he married his wife because that's what everyone did in the 1950s.

    And every time I point out that many of the homosexuals I know, used to be married and have children from those marriages, the gays and their advocates insist that they were born homosexual and just remained in the closet.
     
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    All of what you stated, is an opinion.
     
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    I don't identify myself as an adulteror.... despite having sex with someone other than my wife without her permission.....


    yeah, it sounds stupid when your logic is applied to other behaviors, huh?


    He may not "be gay" anymore..... but he was gay when he was having sex with boys for a decade, despite what he told people he was.
     
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    You are correct. I don't know for a fact what Sandusky indentifys as. I really don't care. However that still doesn't change the fact that the study is 3% of the population IDENTIFY themselves as homosexual.

    Since you know homosexuals who have been in a hetrosexual marriage, why don't you ask them? I can't speak for them. I've never met them. I've never had sex with a female and never have had an interest in it. I've always been attracted to men, as far back as I can remember. I can speak for some homosexuals, that I know personally, that have been in a hetrosexual relationship at one point. They've told me, that they knew they were gay from a young age and that they married someone of the opposite sex to surpress it or hide it. I personally have never been told by someone who is now a homosexual, that they were hetrosexual until one day they woke up and decided to be a homosexual.
     
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    I don't care what he admits to.... actions speak louder than words. He stuck his penis into a boy and the only thing the gay agenda seems concerned with is whether or not he admits he is or was gay when he did it. Having a Jerry Sandusky counting against you hurts the agenda, and apparently.... agenda>child's safety
     
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    How obtuse can you be?

    How many times do I have to repeat the statistics that have been posted in this thread states that 3% of the population is homosexual. Since they came to that figure by actually asking people that would mean that 3% of the population IDENTIFY themselves as gay. The next figure that was quoted is 33% of pedophiles are homosexuals. That figure came to be from looking at the gender of the perp and the victim of the gender. Has nothing to do with how the person identifys themself. Of those 33% if you were to ask them how many identify as homosexual, it would probably be a very small number. I realize self identification is irrevelant. You don't want self identification, yet you like to quote the 3% of the population identify themselves as homosexual. AS I'VE SAID. IF YOU GO BY THE SEX ACT, IT WOULD BE MORE LIKE 50% OF THE POPULATION ARE HOMOSEXUAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE HAD SOME SORT OF HOMOSEXUAL EXPERIENCE. If you were to qestion every person who has had some sort of homosexual experience(according to your logic that being homosexual means only having homosexual sex) only a small percentage would identify themselves as homosexual.
     
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    I'm not denying the number can be more.


    but on the flip side of that coin, just because Sandusky says he's not gay, does not change the fact that he was gay to a bunch of little boys, and that 3%:33% ratio is actually much worse because gays are not even counting him in the number

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    we don't need to ask Jerry if he's gay... there was proof he was
     
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    Homosexuals are not saying/claming 33% of pedophiles are homosexuals. That is coming from people who have an agenda against homosexuals. That statistic should be 33% of pedophiles are with someone of the same gender.
    So according to you since 33% of pedophiles are with someone of the same gender, they are homosexual. Ok, fine. 33% of pedophiles are homosexual.(again not self identify, going by the gender of their victim.)
    Now going with my statistic of 50% of the population is homosexual, because at some point in their life they have had a homosexual experience(give or take a few %).
    Now the statistic is 33% of pedophiles are 50% of the population(homosexual) and 66% of pedophiles are 50% of the population(hetrosexual). That means hetrosexuals are more apt to be pedophiles. We should keep all hetrosexuals away from children then.

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    Remember it is about the safety of the children.
     
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    No it's the definition try looking at a dictionary sometime. Typical con ignorance is shown again.
     
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    of course they don't claim it.... it's a horrible stat that speaks volumes of the lifestyle and the risks associated with that group.


    you can bicker all you want about if it's 5% or 3%, or 10%, committing 1/3 of the sexual crimes against children.... it doesn't matter. unless it's 33% causing 33% of the crimes... the number is too high and people should be allowed to ask.... "why?" and "how can we fix this/prevent this"
     
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    Please do. You wont find ANY definition of homosexuality or bisexuality that requires the attraction to be directed towards an adult. And it is ONLY when they try to explain away the over representation of gays and bisexuals among child molesters, that they add in this requirement that the attraction be to an adult.
     
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    Homosexuality is a sexual orientation and requires an ATTRACTION not an act. Done.
     
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    You cared enough to proclaim as fact that "He identified himself as a hetrosexual", when actually had no idea. Would seem any time a man has sex with a boy, you automatically assume he must be a heterosexual.

    The one I know best says that as a 50ish, overweight and balding divorcee, he dated women for several years but never got to have sex with any of them. Then one night of drinking too much, a smooth skinned petite boy, half his age gave him a blowjob. He now identifies as homosexual, preferring men because he gets laid all the time while as a heterosexual he never did after his divorce. At most he is a bisexual that has come to prefer men. I suspect a lot of bisexuals, identify as heterosexual when they are young and starting a family is more imortant to them and then later in life when sexual gratification is the concern, they identify as homosexual. Kind of like LUGs. Lesbian until graduation.

    The separation of sexuality from procreation entails its freedom from heterosexuality and its emergence as an individual attribute, something individuals can develop, enjoy, change or project as part of their changing definition of the self. Sexuality becomes plastic because the self itself has broken the bounds of traditional institutional expectations and it is now free to constitute and reconstitute itself in a series of narratives answering to nothing else but the growing freedom of individuals to develop their potential.
    http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/gimenez/work/GIDDENS.TXT

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    No one said otherwise soooooo not sure of your point. Or perhaps my mistake is in assuming you had one.
     
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    absolutely and that's the point. The proclivity toward pedophilia among homosexuals demands that we ask why.
     
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    Survey of prisoners convicted of molesting a boy showed that 86% SELF identifies as homosexual or bisexual.
     
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    I think people who ignore social convention regarding the sex of the people they engage in sexual relations with, would be more likely to ignore social convention regarding the age of the people they engage in sexual relations with. And, Ive mentioned before, that for most of the history of human civilization, homosexual behavior was almost exclusively with underage boys and homosexual sex between two male adults was rare and condemned.
     
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    Ah yes, the old ******* "the debate is over". The way to end all disagreements where the facts are getting in the way.

    No, the debate is not over.
     
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    Gay sex does not make one homosexual, a celibate person can have attractions to the same sex, aka homosexual. You can't even twist others words effectively anymore. Troll fail
     
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    Sure it is you said an act is what determines sexual orientation and it doesn't. The definition of homosexual even states it is an attraction. Yes, the debate is over since you have demonstrated your comments are pure ignorance and you lack even the basic understanding of sexuality and sexual orientation.
     
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    A more modern PC definition that is pure and complete baloney.

    Tell me, what do you think they punish in Islam, how a person "feels" sexually, or the sexual act?
     
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    So if a guy is attracted to other men but never acts on it you believe he is heterosexual? It's kind of like straight until proven homo...

    What orentation were you before your first sexual experiance? The arguments are getting more and more pathetic. Try having a basic grasp of human sexuality before making such asinine claims. It would really help your arguments.

    Have you people gotten so desperate you are using (extremist) Islam as a guide. They also stone women for driving.
     
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    You mean agreeing with you would help my argument.

    It's funny how people with traditional values can be demonized by intolerant *******s so quickly. We should have nipped this shiite in the bud, and it serves mushy middle America right for trying to compromise with degenerates.
     
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    wrong reply sorry
     
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    So you're proof is Islam? Wow again your ignorant comments only prove how desperate cons are and why they lose every almost every battle against gays.

    When shown proof of a definition cons only resort to idiotic references and excuses. That is why you've lost credibility and the battle. Enjoy not only SSM but gays as a protected class Con :roflol:

    Eat it Con :roflol:
     
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    Wow, a poor ******* that doesn't know the difference between a question and a comment.
     
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