What's happening to Conservatism?

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  1. Alchemist

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    Aren't we glad the our ancestors didn't listen to that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) rhetoric when the British said it. Leftist? I doubt you have any idea what that implies.
     
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    Can you blame them? As criminals, and their willing and useful idiots of the Left support them, got more brazen and bold, what are police to do?
     
  3. ChiCowboy

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    Who started this new "leftist" tactic? It's been around for about a year, as I recall. I hadn't heard that term since the 80s. "Leftist" used to mean communist, but now it's being used as a synonym for American liberals. The modern right-wing seems to have some serious hangups with words.
     
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    Simple. This is all I ask of the police. Simply be honest when you know an officer has done something wrong/illegal and hold them accountable. I've had former officers tell me straight up that no matter what an officer does, you are to defend them. No exceptions. This is the biggest problem between the police and the citizens. Police officers are people, and some people are bad. There's no way to stop every police officer from ever doing something bad. They should simply weed out the bad officers instead of defending them. That's all.
     
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    A ding to the Republican Party does not equate with a change in the viewpoint of political conservatives.

    The primary reason for the decline in Republican registration is the party has failed to rebrand itself after the debacle that was BushCo.

    And, true political conservatives consider that the Republican party has moved left, and many of us even consider that Bush was a closet liberal, and we've traced the reasons for that, and we discovered that the entire Neo-Con philosophy and movement was born out of liberalism, its founders and its first implements were all war-hawk liberals who didn't have a conservative bone in their bodies.

    So basically, many of us don't want to have anything to do with the Republican party at this point.

    However, that also does NOT equate with any increase in Democratic registration, none of us are going to suddenly become liberals.
     
  7. dairyair

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    And the parents don't teach them anything? That's it. And then the parents and grandparents die off.
     
  8. cupid dave

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    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1672

    The rise of the welfare state in the 1960s contributed greatly to the demise of the black family as a stable institution.
    The out-of-wedlock birth rate among African Americans today is 73%, three times higher than it was prior to the War on Poverty.

    Children raised in fatherless homes are far more likely to grow up poor and to eventually engage in criminal behavior, than their peers who are raised in two-parent homes. I

    n 2010, blacks (approximately 13% of the U.S. population) accounted for 48.7% of all arrests for homicide, 31.8% of arrests for forcible rape, 33.5% of arrests for aggravated assault, and 55% of arrests for robbery. Also as of 2010, the black poverty rate was 27.4% (about 3 times higher than the white rate), meaning that 11.5 million blacks in the U.S. were living in poverty.
     
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    Teach them,...??

    CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

    63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).
    90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.
    85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (Source: Center for Disease Control).
    80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source: Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).
    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
    85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

    These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

    5 times more likely to commit suicide
    32 times more likely to run away
    20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    14 times more likely to commit rape
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school
    20 times more likely to end up in prison

    Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:

    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
    6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
    24.3 times more likely to run away
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
    6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
    10.8 times more likely to commit rape
    6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
    15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
    73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes

    Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

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    http://www.cato.org/publications/con...-state-crime-0
     
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    These days, with the destruction of the family unit, or both parents working, no, they dont teach their chilren like they used to. Kids are just sucking in the garbage that is fed to them in public school indoctrination camps.
     
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    That isn't the fault of the schools. And no one is forced into a public school, just into attending a qualified school.
     
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    All I have to say is the Republicans Party has lost the ideals of Traditional Conservatism and the Democratic Party has lost the values of Classic Liberalism. Neither party represents much of what America use to stand for and was. Both should be immediately tossed upon the scrap heap of his history. Politically, this country needs a new beginning. That is something these two business as usual parties can not offer.
     
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    In general conservative values are progressive as each new generation of conservatives will in some way be a departure from the values of their elders.
     
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    It is caused by the constant demonizing by the left and the liberal media that anything conservative is evil so people don't want that label to be applied to them
    but if you poll people on conservative principals the majority will agree to them
    the left and the media did the same thing to the Tea Party they constantly demonized anyone that belonged are agreed with the movement even thou the vast majority would agree with their principals and platform as long a Tea Part isn't mentioned
     
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    From your perspective was was so great about how America use to be? Specifically what period of American history are you referring to?
     
  17. cupid dave

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    Bastard kids :

    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
    6.6 times more likely to drop out of school.
    15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders.
    6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers.
    9 times more likely to drop out of high school.
    71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals A Report on the State of High Schools).
     
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    They sold out and became liberals... If you want to see a real conservative today that believes in the republican model, you have to look at libertarians.
     
  19. cupid dave

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    Mostly a husband worked and mom stayed home and raised the kids.

    She was boss at the house until Dad came home.
    She demonstrated respect for him, and the kids followed her practice.

    They went to school, and showed him the report card.
    Behavioral problems were seen as the teacher was right, and his kids needed to change their behavior.
    Sex was never mentioned.
    Kids knew if they got a girl pregnant, they HAD to marry her.

    Crime was very small cases.
    Mass murders where like once in life time big news.
    Doors were unlocked and no problems existed.

    Girls never let parents know if they were a little loose with a guy or two.
    They dressed conservatively, without skin showing.
    No Gays existed as far as one knew, because everyone was totally without sexual emphasis in their behavior, words, and dress.
    Young people were surprised, around age 10, to have other kids explain that their mother and father had sex, which many did not believe was true.

    Abortions were zero, not 1.2 million every year.
    Bad words ere never heard except between the guys their own age, which they assumed parents and adults never knew about.
    The "F" word was so bad that one never said to other people out loud, unless he was just with his friends.
    No even got pregnant unless they were married, as far as people knew, so there was no Welfare until after 1960.
     
  20. BrianBoo

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    And guess what? The majority of fatherless homes are black. And where is most of the poverty and crime?

    1+ 1 = 2.

     
  21. cupid dave

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    Hahaaa,...
    Silly.
    You HAVE to be poor, or they wont give you the Welfare.

    The people who apply makes sure they are without a job, unmarried, have one baby at least, and need a home and a regular check.
    Then thy are "in-the-system."
    You can sign up on the internet, if you say you are broke, have no job, and there is a baby.
     
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    Ahh, no <Flame-baiting/Insults/Replies> there are 6,427,000 single parent black families, and 9,289,000 single parent white families...... therefore the "majority" of fatherless homes are white.....
     
  23. robini123

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    Still waiting for you to tell me what specific period of American History you are speaking of? 1920's, 30's, 40's, 50's... 1800's, 1700's?
     
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    Nice try. :roll:

    I saw the same stats. The gross numbers you quote represent 25% of all white children in single parent homes, while it represents 67% of all black children in single parent homes. Here's the link.

    http://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...6,868,867,133,38/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431

    <Flame-baiting/Insults/Replies>

     
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    These are often people who are unhirable. The only other option is to throw them out to live on the street and starve to death.
     

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