Before Dylann Roof there was Eric Sheppard.

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    For some background on the story here is an article that describes who Eric Sheppard is and what happened at Valdosta:

    http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/n...6-0006-11e5-a51d-d3b6bf7e7cb9.html?TNNoMobile

    This OP will be done in sections because of the length. It is important to get an idea who Eric Sheppard is and what he is all about.

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    Here is Eric Sheppard:

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    He is the leader of the protest group that had the flag stomping protest.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Here is Eric Sheppard's manifesto:

    http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/n...6-0006-11e5-a51d-d3b6bf7e7cb9.html?TNNoMobile
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Conclusion:

    http://www.valdostadailytimes.com/n...6-0006-11e5-a51d-d3b6bf7e7cb9.html?TNNoMobile


    Now a simple question: Is Eric Sheppard what is defined as a racist?

    As far as I am concerned Eric Sheppard is as insane as Dylann Roof. He definitely lives in his own reality which does not match true reality.

    Why aren't liberals as upset about Eric Sheppard as they would be any "racist"?

    After the Dylan Roof killings he was outed as a "white supremacist" a "racist" and there has been calls to remove the confederate flag from anything and everything. But what about Eric Sheppard and his influences? Shouldn't we look into his background and find what influenced his brand of "racism"?

    What classes did Sheppard take at Valdosta? What type of websites did he visit? What were the influences that led to his "racism"? What can we ban to keep this hate from spreading?

    Why aren't liberals asking these questions? Why hasn't Obama spoke on this type of "racism"? Where are all the threads on Eric Sheppard?
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    Before Jim Crow there was Jim Snow?

    What's the point of this? That White people suffer from racism just as much as Black people? You measure this in crazy serial killers?
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    You can start by answering the questions I asked instead of attempting to derail the thread.

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    +1 .....but one the lefties will ignore. This is proof that liberals are not interested in stopping what they call racism. They are only interesting in controlling other people.
     
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    I don't see where Eric Sheppard killed anyone. The title is misleading.
     
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    I don't get it either, the post is not clear, and not to the point at all

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    let me try to do what the op failed to do

    "Valdosta State Student Who Stomped US Flag Wants To Kill All White People"

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/23/v...omped-us-flag-wants-to-kill-all-white-people/

    so there is racist blacks too... yep, wish they were all caught before they mass murdered people (regardless of race)

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    Asking what the purpose of the thread is...is derailing it. Sure...
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Where did the title claim Sheppard killed anyone? Why does it take someone being killed before lefties get upset? Does "racism" not bother you?
     
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    Meh, this is thought policing. If he's in jail, every single member of all hate groups need to be in jail.
     
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    It is derailing when the purpose is obvious. Can you answer any of the questions or not?

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    Questions have been asked in the OP. The manifesto was so long it took more than one post to put it in. Can you answer the questions or not?

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    This protest and terrorist Sheppard were on a college campus....should this college be investigated?

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    I kinda agree with you there. But he did commit a crime.
     
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    This is a funny question coming from a poster that stated that "racism was a myth." You still put it in quotes lol. The title stated that before there was Roof, there was Eric. I'm thinking another whack job killed some innocents but that's not the case. What we have here is a protester that stomped all over a flag and since then been under arrest.
     
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    It doesn't really bother me that the confederate flag is being removed from several places. I never really cared for it anyway. If the reason is because it is supposed to inspire hate in white supremacists then why not look into what we can remove from colleges that inspire hate in black supremacists like Sheppard.
     
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    Sigh... We are supposed to arrive at this answer based on a manifesto...

    Did he kill anyone? No, he's a problem that was contained before the worst happened. So, is the real question why don't we all leap to outrage for every nutcase that makes the news? Apparently, we all express outrage when a Black person does something extremely violent. Liberals and conservatives. There was apparent media coverage of this event. So...why are you griping so hard?

    Instead of mourning a current incident where people were killed due to racism, you dig through the past to provoke some other controversy. The news is the news and it's expected of them to make a circus out of whatever they feel is polarizing and here you are, as happy as ever to feul the flames. But I know...it's not you, it's the liberals. It's always the liberals.
     
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    Then you misunderstood. You see Eric Sheppard also wrote a hate filled manifesto....that is what I am referring to. The fact that Sheppard was stopped before he murdered people is not relevant. Does that clear things up?
     
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    Again, does it matter that he didn't kill anyone yet? Same hate filled manifesto style, same racist rhetoric style....my questions are not based on killing people. I am just trying to understand the myth of racism that liberals have faith in.

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    So how about it? Should Sheppard's past be investigated? Should the college curriculum be seriously looked at? What could have inspired such hatred?

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    I have to agree with Obama on this one. No one wants to have a serious discussion about race.....sad.
     
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    What is the myth of racism that liberals have faith in- assuming that all liberals really think the way you say they do?

    But in conclusion, yes. It would definitely be a good idea to understand why this Black man felt the way he did. It could even be said that he went crazy because there was no discussion about these things... The college would naturally be among the places one should investigate and likely, there probably was a brief investigation, but the police- who likely aren't liberals- didn't feel the need to go that far.
     
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    The manifest came after the warrant. He was under the impression that he would be shot on sight because of the other publicized incidents where cops shot Black people. There were social media updates on this whole thing. He stomped on a flag, some lady got pissed, police arrived at the scene, he was cooperative, blah blah blah. Only later did the police say he had a firearm in his backpack and put a warrant out for his arrest. He was just granted bond like a couple days ago.
     
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    I am not talking about the police investigating the college. I believe the justice department should. That isn't happening now is it? This is what I mean by myth of racism. It is based on a version of history that isn't true. It is also based on zero evidence. No one has been able to present any proof racism even exists. Therefore it is a myth.

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    Oh so this nut bag is walking the streets....nice. Roof wrote his manifesto thinking he would commit suicide but he didn't. So what?
     
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    There's a point to this thread?

    Oh I get it, it's that y'all are saying that what Roof did is okay because there are black racists out there too. Is that the point you are trying to make?
     
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    Not at all. Both of these insane criminals deserve long prison sentences. Are you against racism or not? Or perhaps only when whites are considered the "racist"?
     
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    So what, this isn't the minority report where people get arrested for what we think they might do. For goodness sake he had White people with him at his protest. Some even defended his right to talk smack and stomp all over the flag. If you want to arrest people for thought crimes go ahead. Start with Roof's Council of Conservative Citizens group because they at least produced a murderer.

    Next go down a checklist of White Supremacist groups since most lone terrorist actions come from their groups, especially the infamous St0rmfr0nt.
     
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    Yes, I am against all forms of racism, and have said so several times on this board alone. But what this is looking like is that you are defending Roof's actions saying "Look, this guy was a racist too, so it's okay what Roof did!"

    This is how it's coming off sounding like.

    Don't think you can trap me with that whole "They think only white people can be racist" bull crap, I know for a fact that a whole lot of a lot of different races can be deeply racist. There are a whole lot of racist as hell black people out there. They aren't nice people. Racists aren't good, racism isn't good. I know it's hard concept for some people to grasp, but being a racist and defending racists because other people are also racist isn't good.
     
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    Wouldn't the Nazi's qualify as racists?
     

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