Before Dylann Roof there was Eric Sheppard.

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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    So are you claiming Sheppard is not a "racist"? What is it that you do not get?
     
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    How many Dylan Roofs have killed people lately? Are you saying he is not insane or do you think it is perfectly normal to kill 9 people?

    Your perception of a KKK member behind every tree is delusional. The "institutionalized racism" is a myth. I really do not get the confederate flag thing. Remove it, I could care less. Perhaps you do not like the spotlight on hate filled scumbags like Sheppard because it reveals hatred on the other side of the spectrum as well. The fact that liberals ignore this hatred while focusing on "evil whitey" on shows liberals as hypocrites. The truth hurts doesn't it?
     
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    Soldiers kill people. Police kill people. Are they insane?

    Not what I said...

    So you keep saying...despite obvious evidence to the contrary.

    The spotlight isn't on Sheppard except in your world. Both deserved to be punished and was/are being punished. Hatred exists on each side, yes. But you're only talking about Black hate as if it was the greatest problem concerning hate in the country, or as if they were equal.

    For once, try to address an issue without saying liberals. Every liberal does not think the same, nor does every conservative. Some people are neither liberal nor conservative. If your talking about the political caste, that's another story. If you are talking about liberal-inclined media, that's another story. But there's also conservative media that goes on at length about these topics which you want to discuss. The conservatives ignore liberal points and the liberals ignore conservative points.

    To argue against conservatives as a whole, or liberals as a whole, is probably two of the biggest strawmen used in political debates.
     
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    Did I say they were? The act of killing someone doesn't make the automatically insane just like the act of killing a black person doesn't automatically make them racist. See how that works?

    I didn't claim you said it.

    You claim that despite producing "obvious evidence".

    The spotlight should be on all of it. If you want to discuss racism do not only discuss one side of it. I am merely pointing out what is being ignored.

    But liberals have had an effect on society by pishing their agenda. Yes, liberals do fall into the same category and think the same way for the most part.

    No need to argue either as a whole but ideology is what it is. Liberals have an ideology the same as conservatives. And talk about fallacies. You are basically using the old "No true Scotsman" argument.

    When people mention conservative or liberal they are usually referring to ideology. To try and say it comes down to the individual is being intellectually dishonest.
     
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    In your comment, you seemed to suggest that Dylan roof killing 9 people was evidence of insanity. Apologies if this was wrong.

    I already gave it. The Jim Crow laws.

    No. You're pointing out one Black extremist, not "what is being ignored".

    Only liberals, right?

    I think you've misinterpreted the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. It does not apply to what I have said. In fact, that is what you are saying. You believe that no liberal would think in any way other than your perception of a liberal. That's a more accurate example.

    Still, there are similarities in all general ideologies, such as "freedom" while the particulars on what this means, and how it should be accomplished vary greatly. But you state specific things you claim all liberals believe or do- like ignore racism. Fact or opinion?

    Yes, it does come down to the individual. Simply put, not every conservative agrees with your view on things. Not in your town. Not in your city. State. Or Country. And those that disagree with you will have disagreements among themselves. So on and so on...
     

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