South Carolina church fire: Mt. Zion AME burns in Greeleyville

This is what happens when you put the guy's picture in the news holding a flag and posing like a hero. This should have never been national news.

 

And yet racism has not been linked to any of these events per my link from CNN... Another one who assumes racism...

 

They're also the same people who were upset when the FBI suggested there might be a rise in violent right wing extremists. Don't see any left wing extremists burning down churches.

 

In this thread the same people who KNEW that a White cop murdered Brown of Ferguson for the sheer pleasure of watching a black youth die on the street also KNOW that it absolutely must be a White racist or racists who set fire to the church despite historical precedence pointing to a fifty-fifty chance that it's actually a radical leftist of some sort trying to ignite a race war.

Of course the smart thing to do is wait until the police have arrested someone for the act and then people will know based on facts and not suppositions. But then again, where's the fun in doing that?

 

Really? A guy holds a confederate flag, poses with guns, then goes and commits a massacre at a black church and no racism has occurred?

 

I was speaking of the churches themselves not Dylan Roof. You are getting desperate.

Context.. Take your spin jobs and hack attack and shove off.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5PYzlp6tqM


So what is your assumption now?

 

One sees at least one Black local community leader somewhere in this nation about once per year (especially since Obama became president) calling for the death of Whites and yet -- gasp! -- one never hears the leftist MSM label them racists or hate-mongers and . . . so forth and so on. Double standards . . . and if not for double standards then all too many leftists would appear to have almost no standards whatsoever -- present company excepted of course. Meh . . . go figure.

 

If it's malfunctioning utilities or weather that caused the church fires, then fine I can admit jumping the gun on this. But you'll have to forgive me if I'm still skeptical of all this happening merely 2 weeks after Charleston, all in the South and around mostly or notably black churches.

 

I didn't get to your post yet. I was reading up. This is EXACTLY why I don't get my news from CNN or any other 24/7 station. Race bating (*)(*)(*)(*)s.

 

not to mention he was wearing rhodesian and afrikkkaner badges on his jacket, the only badge missing from that little holy trinity was the swastika but i may have missed that.

 

So the people who assume its racism are not race baiting but CNN is race baiting for reporting the news.. This is getting funny..

 

Citation needed. Docking one point for improper grammar.

 

Well I'm old enough to remember the same sort of hysteria back in the 90's. There was the same conspiracy theory thinking that black churches were burning, racist agenda, ect...After several years the Justice Department completed it's investigation. There was no racist conspiracy. Sometimes churches, like other buildings, burn. Churches are also targets for arson because they are empty most of the week so they make good targets. Black churches did burn, but the thing is, so did white churches. The difference is, a white church burning is a local story. A black church burning is a national one.

I saw MSNBC's hysterical coverage on it this morning, and the had Mark Potok, from the SPLC on, and even he had to concede that there was no rash of racist church burnings in the 90's. So when you lost the SPLC...

I think the real question is, why do you want to believe these are racist attacks when at the moment there is zero evidence of that?

 

See Ferguson. Docking for attempt at diversion from the nature of your own original posting.

 

Timing.

It's not about wanting to believe its racist, it's the fact that it coincidentally involves historically black churches throughout the South 2 weeks after the Charleston shooting throughout multiple states. And even though MAYBE one could be arson all of it just seems incredibly peculiar to me.

 

* June 26: Greater Miracle Apostolic in Tallahassee, Florida. The fire was likely caused by a tree limb falling on power lines.


So with the logic of "Timing" is the tree or the power line racist?

 

Maybe I should put it like this: had it only been one church on fire or this happened before the Charleston shooting I'm pretty sure no one would get overly suspicious and immediately call it a racist attack.

 

And yet it seems a tree caused one of these... So again assuming racism is beyond stupid.

 

How is it stupid to assume racism? Between the shooting, Dylan Roof's manifesto found after the shooting, his apartheid South African jacket, the Confederate flag crisis, all of the churches being historically black, all within a 2 week span and so many other things why wouldn't anyone assume its racism?

 

Great so then with your logic was the the tree or the power line that was racist?

 

That's not what I'm getting at, my point is that with everything surrounding the shooting and the social climate it's not completely unreasonable to think racists did this. And no a tree can't be racist.

 

Well then provide the people investigation these cases your expertise as up to now not a single one of them is being looked at as a hate crime. ( the churches burned/vandalized not Dylan Roof for the slow witted)

 

As of now, since none of them are being considered a hate crime and it was either negligence or weather that's kinda meaningless. That doesn't mean I'm not a little bit skeptical still nor are other people, as a matter of fact I do believe I thought this string of church fires was "peculiar," as I said earlier.

Let me try and put this in another context: suppose an Arabic person goes to an office and stabs his boss and one co-worker to death and his reasoning for doing so is because they both slept with his wife and one of them got her pregnant. Do you think that would stop anyone from labeling the guy a terrorist or Jihadist?

 

You said there is 50/50 chance these church burnings are by leftist, black agitators. What's wrong, can't back it up?

 

Why no, no I can't. In this respect I am channeling my inner leftist and just going with my feeeeeeeeeelings because doing so feels so good. One could even call it l-i-b-e-r-a-t-i-n-g.