Gun control and bullying

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Bowerbird, May 29, 2015.

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Is the scene described bullying or intimidation?

  1. yes it is intimidation and bullying

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  2. It is an attempt to thwart the first amendment by using the second

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  3. no both parties are simply exercising rights

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  4. No it is not intimidation at all

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  1. nimdabew

    nimdabew Member

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    Nope. What we have here are people being intimidating without firearms. Why is this important? They are being intimidating. What you see above is very different than what you see below.

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  2. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Yes and he put the God part in there so he would not be declared a heretic, which was sort of a big deal in his day. Even the God part can't get around his argument. He inserts it there because otherwise horrible (*)(*)(*)(*) would've happened to him.
    Just like Machiavelli didn't ACTUALLY want to practice what he put into the Prince, history sort of obliged him to. Compare the Prince with The Discourses. Polar opposites. Now what happened between him being a champion of republican government as chancellor of florence, and writing a practical manual on how to be a totalitarian (*)(*)(*)(*) head? That's right the deMedici took over florence and exiled him to a hovel outside the walls where he shoveled filth around like the peasants from Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
     
  3. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    And your argument goes directly against Descartes because MATH ISN"T PERCEPTION. Math is MATH. If I have 2 ideas of a thing in one metaphorical hand and 2 ideas of the same thing in the other metaphorical hand, I have 4 ideas of a thing that are the same. 2+2 always always always equals 4. I don't have to actually PERCEIVE actual things to know this. I can think it just like I can think the cogito. It exists as a concept and does not require physical representation.

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    Many non communist socities have public education. That is neither a unique feature of communism, nor even desirable especially when controlled by comrade commissar.

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    Because people routinely call the cops on them and its common courtesy to call in advance and say "people are dumb and are going to call you. We're over here off 3rd and vine standing here peacefully assembling. If you sent a guy down the dumb(*)(*)(*)(*)s might cool their tits so you stop getting so many crazed phone calls over nothing."
     
  4. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    O no someone from forbes has their panties in a twist and so does someone from "forwardprogressives"!!!! How ever shall we go on?
     
  5. Reality

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    See how the kid on the left is pointing the muzzle at a live person and has their finger in the trigger guard? Guess what that means? It means in Texas they'd be arrested post haste. See how one on the right has the weapon properly slung, the muzzle pointed down and away from people and her hand no where near the grip much less the actual trigger? Guess what that means? No law was broken and the weapon is perfectly safe. Take a xanax lady.
     
  6. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    What I see are some people posed with guns - which is very different from the reports of the OCT harassing police and others

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    Sorry but I have to post this cartoon

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    and this discussion

    http://articles.latimes.com/2013/nov/12/nation/la-na-tt-open-carry-gunslingers-20131111
     
  7. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Really? Pictures of Open Carry Texas in action

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  8. OrlandoChuck

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    Fingers off the trigger not held in threatening manor..... What is your point... Nothing illegal here.
     
  9. Reality

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    Sigh look at the kid on the left again. Where is his finger? Where is the muzzle pointed?
    Now look at your picture again. Where is the finger? Where is the muzzle
     
  10. nimdabew

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    That last one, that is Washington, not Texas.
     
  11. nimdabew

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    lol, thats funny. Here are more.

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  12. Bowerbird

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    Is the NRA paying for this advertising or is it free?
     
  13. Bowerbird

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    Really - I suppose the magnifying glass helped to determine that

    Now if this were you in that lobby - how long would it have taken you to determine that? Second question - how much longer to determine these guys were NOT threats?

    Thirdly - at what level does gun behaviour become unacceptable?

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    What's the difference?
     
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    It takes about a second to realize they are no threat.

    Gun laws vary by state. The difference between DC and most states is huge.
     
  15. nimdabew

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    No, we have this right called the freedom of speech. It is the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States. Those are not all NRA propaganda writings. The NRA stuff has big blocky letters that say NRA on them.

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  16. nimdabew

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    What's the difference between Queens Land and New South Wales? Is the entire a homogenous set of laws? Also, open carry can be the same across this nation, but if you are talking about Open carry TEXAS, it is intellictually dishonest to post pictures of someone from Washington.
     
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    Observing the demeanor of people and being aware of your surroundings is part of your own self defense system. If I saw these people in public, it would not set off any alarms for me. For people that have a fear of guns (rational or irrational) they might run for cover and call police. This is the reason the OCT advises police when they have an event.
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Really? So that second - between realising they are not a threat and working out that this person is about to commit a mass shooting - would that slow your response with your gun?

    Seems too I might have to indicate in a post when I am being humorous. Although I am still trying to determine what difference it would make when it is essentially the same group different state.
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    That is not the question - question is how do you tell the difference between the bad guys (i.e Seung-Hui Cho, Adam Lanza, George Hennard, Nidal Malik) and the "good guys" if the good guys are walking around armed and only a finger position away from looking like they are about to shoot someone? Are you trying to tell me that 100% of people should be fully aware of everything in their environment 24/7??

    That is completely unrealistic
     
  20. Bowerbird

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    Subtlety - misses some

    You do not have to have large writing to be advertising something - some of the most effective advertising is not in your face. I think the best example of that is the panic buying generated by false rumours of gun control legislation

    But that brings me back to the OP - and it is amazing how quickly defence of the freedom of speech occurs when it is something allied to guns however if it is something questioning guns - well then bring out the gags, ropes and start stoning
     
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    It is not the questioning that is offensive, it is the utter stupidity of the questions. Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
     
  22. OrlandoChuck

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    In short the answer you are looking for is observe demeanor.
    The more you teach yourself to be aware of your environment, your chances of becoming a victim lessen.
    Self defense 101.
     
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    Statistically speaking, males are far more likely to commit rape than females.

    How do you tell the difference between the males who will rape you for no reason, and the males that will not rape you?
     
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    With all respect the 2nd Amendment is why America could never be invaded and that makes unarmed nations not sensible, or crazy.

    For example when Russia invaded Finland with millions, only a few hundred thousand Finnish were able to defend their sovereignty because they all were mandated by their government to join the military which made them gun owners.

    In America there is no mandate to be a gun owner or join the military, but the freedom alone makes for a good deterrent to the enemy.
     
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    Never say never, but with equal respect, the reason why the USA is unlikely to be invaded has little to do with hand guns or rifles. The USA has the largest and best equipped military in the world, and is a country of considerable size. The military dominance required to invade and hold so large a country, so well equipped militarily, simply does not exist - neither in the USA nor elsewhere.
     

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