Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

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Do you believe that the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple will occur in...?

  1. Probably within a century or two!

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  2. Never, Bible prophecy is false and misleading.

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  3. Perhaps within decades, we truly are in a new age of spirituality!

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  4. Perhaps by the year 3030, three days/3000 years from the resurrection of Jesus!

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  5. I don't know enough about this subject to comment!

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  6. Hey, this is a good way to prove that God does not exist!

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    But.... Christ taught us to take the words of the prophets seriously...…

    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

    Ezekiel chapters 40 - 48 sure sound like a prediction of a literal Jerusalem Third TEmple to me.


    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/179059#.U-jUi7XNhjp

    Rabbis Issue United Call to Establish Synagogue on Temple Mount

    Large group of Religious Zionist rabbis from across spectrum ask Prime Minister to establish a synagogue on the Temple Mount.
     
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    What do you think about how I have came to understand these verses Bishadi?

    Am I obviously incorrect to suspect that the fulfillment of Zechariah chapter 14 could be delayed until Christians begin to have a much deeper respect for the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah?
    Luke 13:35
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.



    On one level this verse could mean that as long as we Christians fail to realize that the Prophet Ezekiel was blessed...… and was sent............. and that his words in Ezekiel chapters 40 to 48 were indeed inspired and will come to pass........... then a key element to the fulfillment of Isaiah 66:5,6 will be missing.............. and we will not fully hear the voice of the Messiah in the metaphorical "temple."

    BLB - Isa 66: The Major Prophet Isaiah 66 (Blue Letter Bible: KJV - King James Version)


    Isa 66:5
    ¶Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.


    Isa 66:6
    A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.




    We Christians have a tendency to nail down The Written Word - Logos to merely one level of meaning..... when in fact there are always at the minimum two valid levels of meaning.........

    "to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;"


    .......Isa 34:16
    "Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them. "
     
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    Pastor Howard Pittman eventually learned how to give a good account but his first attempt did fail miserably.

    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/christianity01.html


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    But isn't it logical that as medical technology improves more and more people would come back from a situation of being nearly dead…… or even truly dead….. and isn't it logical that they might have a powerful message for us?
     
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    But what about this prophecy given through Jeremiah?

    This wasn't fulfilled in the past so surely this must be referring to the era of Messiah/ Moshiach or as we Christians say… the Millennium?


    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jer&c=33&t=KJV
    Jeremiah 33:16 - 26:
    "In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.
    For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
    Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
    And the word of the LORD came unto Jeremiah, saying,
    Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;
    Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
    As the host of heaven cannot be numbered, neither the sand of the sea measured: so will I multiply the seed of David my servant, and the Levites that minister unto me.
    Moreover the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah, saying,
    Considerest thou not what this people have spoken, saying, The two families which the LORD hath chosen, he hath even cast them off? thus they have despised my people, that they should be no more a nation before them.Thus saith the LORD; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;
    Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them."
     
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    Cupid Dave… have you ever read the Carl Cantrell article on why many different groups should support the rebuilding of the Third Temple?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...upport-rebuilding-jerusalem-third-temple.html
    Carl Cantrell on the many reasons to support rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple.
     
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    Have you seen the thread just began by RevAnarchist..... about 2017?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/381229-jesus-returns-2017-a.html
    Jesus returns in 2017,,,,


     
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    Cupid Dave…. have you heard much of anything about the UFO over the TEmple Mount that occurred back in 2011?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=312844&page=48&p=1064812479#post1064812479
     
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    Dennis....because of what I do.....I can tell you that the Temple Mount UFO Video is almost a CERTAINTY to be a HOAX.

    Reasons why?

    #1. An Alien Craft when moving from an almost to perfect in air standstill....is using a form of GRAVITIC DRIVE....and when they use such a drive the Alien Craft will either just disapear or it might seem for a moment to be more than one craft before vanishing.

    I have watched the Temple Mount UFO Video and the UFO in the video takes off at incredible velocity but the people who make this HOAX VIDEO wanted the people watching to be able to VISABLY SEE AND REGISTER the movement of this.....from a stand still hovering craft.....to approx. 10,000 to 28.000 mph instantaneous takeoff straight up and away.

    A Gravitic Drives use would simply make the Alien Craft either just disapear or look like it was multiple craft then disapear.

    #2. Most REAL Alien Craft use a different form of DRIVE within Atmosphere and although such a DRIVE IS NOT PROPULSION IN IT'S NATURE....as most likely they understand how to use Earth's own Magnetic Field to do Slow to High Speed Navigation in Atmosphere......and the way this UFO in the video moved at a velocity that such a Drive could be capable of.....there would be DIRE CONSEQUENCES FOR THE PEOPLE AND STRUCTURES NEAR SUCH A HIGH VELOCITY TAKEOFF.

    The instantaneous acceleration from just hovering at a standstill to velocities as high as perhaps 10,000 to 28,000mph.....would create such an INCREBIBLY POWERFUL VACUUM in the wake of a Craft capable of such instantaneous acceleration......THAT THE ONLY THING LEFT OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT WOULD BE RUBLE AS MOST OF IT WOULD BE SUCKED UP INTO THE AIR FOLLOWING THE ATMOSPHERIC VACUUM TUNNEL being generated by the UFO.

    #3. For OBVIOUS REASONS......Alien Craft or if one want's....UFO activity does not occur around MODERN ACTIVE RELIGIOUS SITES!!!

    They avoid any...and when I say Modern.....I am talking about any Religious Site that has ACTIVE WORSHIP OCCURING!!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I believe that the majority of the statements that you make here are correct but..... I have to wonder if the UFO over the Temple Mount was from a higher level source than the majority of UFO's that have been observed over these past few decades.

    Two days before this UFO event.... even the Temple Institute published an article drawing attention to what the Jordanians were doing:

    http://www.templeinstitute.org/archive/26-01-11.htm
    Huge Jordanian Generators Sighted on Temple Mount

    This particular UFO event could have been one of the only recent sightings of the unfallen Watchers, mentioned in the Book of Enoch as well as in Genesis.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gen&c=6&v=2&t=KJV#s=6002


    Genesis 6:2


    Genesis 6 is writing about Watchers..... who fell..... Daniel refers to other Watchers..... who did not fall into the same error.


    Daniel 4:17


    "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."

    If the January 28, 2011 UFO event over the TEmple Mount is an example of a very high level of angel/ Watcher who is in contact with HaShem - The G-d of Abraham... .then yes..... they would have better technology than other UFO's would.... and they might just have a reason to make their presence somewhat more visible!?
     
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    The Islamic Wakf that oversees the Temple Mount could learn much from President Obama's older brother's approach to this topic:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html

    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?



    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!






    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/
     
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    Listen...even if my and many others like me assesments of this particular evet is wrong......and this was an actual Alien Craft.....even though I am fairly certain this was a HOAX.....you do understand that if it is indeed ALIEN BEINGS.....there IS NOTHING HOLY AND NOTHING SACRED ABOUT THIS...RIGHT???

    All this would prove is that Intelligent Animals or Intelligent Bengs as THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT....are what perhaps all this HISTORY IS ABOUT!!!

    They are NOT ANGELS.....THEY ARE NOT GODS......THEY ARE JUST A MUCH HIGHERLY EVOLVED LIFE FORM!!!

    THAT'S IT!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I do believe in evolution as a principle and as a reality but….. my belief is that The Ancient of Days the Father and the Ancient of Days the Mother (aka The Holy Spirit) evolved……. and learned…. and got better and better and better at creating life forms in many dimensions of space - time but……. Adam and Eve were created…. and long before them various levels of angelic life was created……. some of whom got into wrong attitudes……… frankly…… we humans may well be here to save the fallen angels…… but first we bring back the fallen Watchers who seem to have had amazing technology even thousands of years ago.


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

    The Book of Enoch tells a tale about a level of angels who fell……. had children with the daughters of men….. the children were giants…… with a voracious appetite…….. and they got into the habit of viewing humans as food!

    AboveAlpha…… in another thread you asked for proof that a G-d existed?

    Well…….. proof is a very strong term but the very fact that aliens are still not using humans for food on a large scale is evidence……. (not necessarily proof but at least it is indirect evidence of some type)….. that perhaps the alien life forms with that amazing technology….. .. must fear somebody or some G-d……. or they still might be using humans as a source of meat?!

    I believe that Leviticus 16:10 in the original Hebrew imply that Azazel….. King of the Watchers of The Book of Enoch fame……. may become the leader of a movement that divides the kingdom of "Satan"…. and his kingdom falls and a truly new age of peace is ushered in?!

    http://reluctant-messenger.com/book_of_enoch.htm
    It has only recently been explained to us again how Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had an identical twin brother, (Judas Didymus Thomas, Doubting Thomas)…. who played out a role foreshadowed in Yom Kippur. This was so difficult for most of the disciples that they ignored the meaning…….. and stuck rather exclusively to the Passover metaphor in what happened with Rabbi Yeshua!

    Page 139 - 160 of this book is still the sort of information that the vast majority of us Christians want to hide from:
    http://www.amazon.ca/The-Thomas-Book-Gospel-Brother-ebook/dp/B0041D8YXW

    There is a shocking statement in the Koran that also is written up by some of the church fathers that is explained in this near death experience!
    …….
     
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    But what does any of that have to do with if these are just Highy Advanced Intelligent Beings having such a High Level of Technology that Ancient Man just assumed they were GODS or ANGELS?

    They are NOT GODS OR GOD OR ANGELS!!!

    They are just Highly Intelligent and Highly Technologicaly Advanced Life Forms.

    There is no GOD in this ideology.

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    If intelligent life forms exist in fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth and ninth dimensional space time……. then it only stands to reason that there might just also be a form of intelligence in tenth and eleventh dimensional space - time type energy?

    In 1943, long before String Theory was understood by many high school students……… Dr. George Ritchie was shown a little about what goes on in fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space time…….. the fact that he and his guide were invisible even to the people in what might be seventh and eighth dimensional energy…. implies that perhaps they were in the ninth dimension during his NDE?!


    http://www.near-death.com/ritchie.html
    …….

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    If you take the time to read the whole NDE you may agree with my impression that The TEmple of Wisdom seems to correspond to seventh dimensional space - time and….. The Heavenly City seems to correspond with the eighth dimension?!

    His mention that the spirits of the people in the Temple of Wisdom were unable to see Yeshua - Jesus either, implies that the people in this Temple of Wisdom are in a somewhat lower dimension of space-time than Yeshua and George are in?!

    I put some good quotations on String Theory in my blog….. www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    Terms like "angel", "arch-angel", Elohim and HaShem/ G-d are terms that eventually will probably be revealed to correspond with higher and higher levels of energy and hidden dimensions of space - time.

    My impression of the Jewish Bible plus the Christian Bible is that Moses was dealing face to face with The Word - Logos a member of the Elohim….. whereas Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was involved in revealing….. The Ancient of Days the Father….. as well as more about the Ancient of Days the Mother (The Holy Spirit) according to some of the apocryphal writings!

    Mark 10:18
    "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God."

    John 5:30
    "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
     
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    Dennis.....WE as in YOU AND I AND EVERYTHING ELSE...exists in an AT ABSOLUTE MINIMUM 10-D Space-Time.

    If it didn't we would not have FREQUENCY or GRAVITY or YOYO'S or QUANTUM MECHNAICS....ETC.

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    Yes.......... my belief at this time is that something was breathed into our ancestors Adam and Eve that is from an extremely high space - time dimension.

    A near death experiencer named Aurora Ray stated that there are 14 Elohim. Seven male and seven female and that each and every human soul that has ever existed can be traced back to one of these fourteen Elohim.

    I don't know if she is correct or not........ but this might explain many unusual ideas that I ran into in the Apocryphal writings..... (such as the idea of Michael, Gabriel and Lucifer/ Iblis/ Satan being asked to bow to Adam...… which I assume means to assist him..... as opposed to becoming his adversary)?!

    Yes...… I have came to believe that there is a small bit of the Word - Logos and/or one of the Elohim.... in each of us?!

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/


     
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    A film devoid of conflict is boring.......... your comment taps into a type of conflict that can sure spice up many economically viable film projects.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...mageddon-could-bring-world-out-recession.html

    Artistic Hollywood style "Armageddon" could bring world out of recession?!

    .......
    A serious attempt to replicate "Armageddon" would create a minimum of two hundred million jobs in China, India, Russia and Mongolia alone....... not to mention the number of jobs this would generate in Israel and the surrounding nations.




    Revelation 9:16



    And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. China now holds so many American dollars that any possible way to cooperate at a higher level seems to be worthy of consideration.

    One of the "stages" is the Jerusalem Third Temple complex. Without conflict a film is boring and we all know that lots of conflict surrounds the idea of rebuilding the Third Temple. Two logical years for this to happen are 2030 (only fifteen years in the future) and also 2070.
     
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    I like that theory!

    At this time Jews must undergo body searches to visit the Temple Mount!

    And any body movement that seems like prayer is suppressed.

    https://www.facebook.com/22738684968/videos/10150548198819969/

     
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    Malik is a con artist............
     
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    I strongly tend to disagree with you Margot2 on this……… I believe that it is far far far far far more likely that Mr. Malik Obama is listening to Islamic scholars like Mr. Adnan Oktar:

    http://www.jewishpress.com/tag/adnan-oktar/
     
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    Bishadi, what do you think about climate change?

    Do you think that I am being irrational to be so worried about cracking and sliding of massive amounts of ice on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet?

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/02/090205142132.htm
    Collapse Of Antarctic Ice Sheet Would Likely Put Washington, D.C. Largely Underwater

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...00-election-but-negates-global-dimming-5.html
    ….(post #45)…..

     
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    It is really good to see that Israelis really care about the Jerusalem Temple.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198632#.VbvBMXh1qOw
    Thousands 'March for Sovereignty' in Jerusalem

     
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    They already tried to build the third temple.. It was knocked down by earthquake and fire..

    Jesus is the temple and Revelation says there is NO temple... but keep it up.
     
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