"Pro-lifers" claim Planned Parenthood & doctors are "in it for the money" on abortion

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  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    already been down this road, I rarely report people and if I do it is only for abusive comments directed at me personally .. I seem to remember you called me a liar the last time it was discussed, care to do the same again, because that will result in me reporting you for a personal attack.
     
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    More under discussion is whether federal funding for these baby butchers and body part traffickers is appropriate. Looks like the Unions also pony up a great deal of cash to these baby chop shops
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/unions-send-dues-money-to-planned-parenthood/

    That makes sense. I doubt "less crunchy" abortions so folks can try to buy Lamborghinis, is something in dire need of taxpayer funding.
     
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    "Body part traffickers" has been debunked. Fetal tissue is donated by women for medical research and PP is reimbursed for storage and transportation costs.

    Since abortion doesn't "butcher a baby," maybe you are talking about funding for "defense" (the never ending war of terror)?



    The Lamborghini sound bite was sarcasm, taken out of context. Do you not understand sarcasm? Do you understand context is important?
     
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    Fifth Video Released and interestingly it starts off with your claim.

    https://youtu.be/egGUEvY7CEg

    The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000 (42 U.S.C. 289g-2). Federal law also requires that no alteration in the timing or method of abortion be done for the purposes of fetal tissue collection (42 U.S.C. 289g-1).
    Just storage and transportation ehh?
    That's not chicken feed.
    And now the list of Senators that voted to continue funding these barbaric crimes against humanity.
    http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/08/breaking-cmps-5th-selling-baby-parts.html
     
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    No, not just storage and transportation, but any expenses that are incurred.

    Abby Johnson is a disgruntled former PP employee, not a reliable source. Planned Parenthood is regularly audited and the target of numerous Republican witch hunt investigations, yet no wrongdoing has been found.

    Thank you senators, for funding health care for poor women.
     
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    http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/...-matter-of-line-items-for-planned-parenthood/

    Hideous
     
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    OK. Let's just stop fetal tissue research.

    To all those who agree -- may you never get Parkinsons, or the other debilitating and deadly diseases this research shows promise for...
     
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    Sure it is. The full video was released at the same time, for each and every video. That is why we have been flooded with videos by the defenders of PP illustrating the deceptive edits... wait... PP and their defenders have not released a single video illustrating a single deceptive edit?
    http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2015/08/breaking-cmps-5th-selling-baby-parts.html
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Edited videos mean nothing, just another branch of the Liar Rose brigade.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/
     
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    It took about 3 seconds to find the first edit in the 5th video. The You Tube title says, "Intact Fetuses "Just a Matter of Line Items" for Planned Parenthood TX Mega-Center," but looking at the beginning of the video, there is an obvious edit between "Intact Fetuses" and "just a matter of line items," proving the video is complete bunk.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egGUEvY7CEg
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    One wonders if these videos are proving what they say what is the need to edit them at all .. it stinks of dishonesty to me.
     
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    Nobody said there were no edits. Both the 15 minute video and the full video were released at exactly the same time and both are available for viewing.
     
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    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Until that 5th video has been seriously looked at I won't be holding my breath that it is any more reliable than the others seeing as they have been shown to be dishonest already.
     
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    You worded that rather nicely, didn't you?
     
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    Provide a link to the unedited video, please.

    Thank you in advance.
     
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    Happy to oblige.

    Can I ask, If these videos are actually showing what they say they are why is there a need to edit them, especially when those edits cut into the full responses of the people talking and as such change the context of the conversation .. that is misrepresentation and basically lying.
     
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    That isn't the point. It is a deceptive edit, completely changing the meaning of whatever was actually said. When you can chop up people's sentences and rearrange the parts, you can make it say anything, and that's what happened.
     
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    There is nothing deceptive about it, and the full video is available if you wish to demonstrate that it is. We have a a Planned Parenthood executive admitting that her doctors illegally alter abortion procedures and that she manipulates prices to accommodate specific fetal tissue harvesting requests -- including delivering fully intact fetuses -- very likely likely violating federal law.

    Altering abortion procedures to procure fetal tissue, delivering intact fetuses and selling fetal tissue for profit are all against federal law.
    http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/03...mammogram-facilities-planned-parenthood-runs/

    Those that receive Federal Funding for medical care need to be of the highest integrity. This looks like it may an ongoing criminal operation. This needs to be thoroughly investigated, witnesses brought in, put under other an interrogated so we can get to the bottom of what appears to be a clandestine illegal organ and body part tissue trade
     
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    Do you have an example of this?
     
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    Why? You wouldn't believe it if they found them innocent........as they have in the past...

    BUT they ARE investigating....see, investigations are done first and those who think they know the facts before the investigation and believe everyone guilty until proven innocent are very Un-American........
     
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    There are at least 4 examples of deceptive editing in the 5th video:

    Planned Parenthood is of the highest integrity. The ongoing criminal operation is the "Center for Medical Progress" which made these highly edited, lying videos for the purpose of defunding PP which would hurt women and increase the number of abortions.
     
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    I asked this yesterday.

    Nothing yet, eh?

    I'll help: Nope.
     
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