Syria crisis: US concern over Russia 'military build-up'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34166623

what do you think about Muscovite role in this war, is it productive? and what Muscovite solders fight in Syria?

 

What does Russia want of Syria? Do they want a warm water port or to keep Assad in power?

BTW, did you see the Frontline program about Putin?

 

Syria is just a bargaining chip for Putin

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http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=423957&p=1065341788#post1065341788

pic, videos

 

The United States have supported so-called "moderate opposition" in Syria for years, providing them with weapons, equipment, training and so on.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/hagel-us-continues-support-syrian-moderates

Since last year the United States launched airstrikes against ISIS in Syria. Or one can say - against those ones in Syria who the US consider as ISIS.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/23/world/middleeast/us-and-allies-hit-isis-targets-in-syria.html

So, there is a question. If one independent nation may send its warplanes to Syria to bomb someone who they want to bomb, why another independent nation cannot do the same?

 

USA has capability to build on ruins , what do you have? Abkhazia, SO, Lugandia , etc....are the worst &hitt holes out there..

 

I'd be appreciated if you find a place on the world map where USA built on ruins.

 

Frontline: Putin's Way.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/putins-way/

Its about an hour long, but very interesting in looking at charges of corruption.........

 

The rumor of Russia having troops and jets in Syria was started by an Israeli show and then picked up by the MSM...who then gave their own skewed interpretation of what Vladimir Putin said at the Eastern Forum at Vladisvostok.. He said they are helping the Syrian government with arms and advisers and continuing the agreement that they had signed five and seven years ago with Syria.

There is no more proof of Russian jets or boots on the ground than there was in Ukraine. More than likely it's wishful thinking on Washington's part, since there is nothing more they would like than getting Russian embroiled in a war.

 

No russian soldier is fighting in Syria... There is actually too much russian soldiers in western media who fight all over the world in Ukraine, Syria etc. Russia is no longer a USSR which was capable of making war operations in different regions of the world simultaneously. For the moment even for the US it is too expensive.

I am sure that russian weaponry is delivered to Syria and Syrian government has the support of Russia. Military and economic. I also do believe that China is not smoking far away from the scenery. Afterall it is a world war... I can believe that some military instructors help the syrian army. Some of them might live in Syria themselves (although it is denied officially). This role is definetely productive for ISIS is failing to expand and has to gain victories in western propaganda over some prehistoric stones... That doesn't tell that much to cowboys and doesn't make anyone scared.

But this very case (russian air force in Syria) was reported by western propaganda and commented the same day by the US official. So it just cannot be true. Too obvious to even think that it could be true.

By the way. Today Greece refused to forbid russian military aviation (which is a mean of delivery) to use their airfields. The US kindly asked for it. But Greece refused. I expect that quite soon western propaganda will tell how bad the greeks are and greeks will sell their sovereignty in exchange for a couple percent of a virtual debt. Things are not coming that good for ISIS and US feel responsible to renovate their puppet, which no longer scares the westerners the way it did in the beginning.

 

How ridiculous, why would anyone watch another demonizing propaganda bit about Vladimir Putin, (probably paid for by the criminal Khodorovsky), when all they have to do is read his own words to know what he is doing and why he is doing it?

 

He likes to joke around like that.

 

Chile, South Korea, west europe, japan etc. enough?

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its too bad they dont show it on youtube. great documentary

 

I'm sure Japaneses would be a bit surprised if they knew the USA built on their ruins. The same as Koreans and Europeans.

I can't say anything about Chile.

 

have you seen 100 or so pictures which i posted ? where they were made? Hollywood, Israel, Lviv?

 

only you and vata are surprised , here some info. feel free ask me if you need more well-known information

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

 

They were posted by you. Are you a general of russian army? Lieutenant? Private? Or you are a vice-president? Official of ministry of defense? Guard of one of their offices? A picture is a picture. And nothing more.

The military operation presumes firstly the possibility to feed the army. Every soldier eats some kilograms of food a day. He shoots some kilograms of bullets, grenades, rockets etc. Times the quantity these kg make tons. A day. Even the US with all their fllet and political might was able to feed a tiny group of soldiers that barely controlled the area they were at. And it happened when there were no army like ISIS against them. Only a group of occasional terrorists poorly armed and having no possibility even to perform a major damage to US Army. These are not 'pictures'. This is a decision that is impossible to conceal even in the 19th century.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=423957&p=1065341788#post1065341788 the same question, where they were made?and who are on them ?

 

You should have answered this question. I see a compilation of different scenes. And in a whole video I heard some russian. This doesn't surprise me to be honest. Russian is quite spread over the world. Maidan in Kiev was done in russian language. Maidan in Modova is being done in russian. Former georgian president Saakashvilli and ukrainian prime-minister are also communicating in russian. Are they all Putin's soldiers? Of course not.

People of different nationalities and cultures from ME were getting education in Russia and it wouldn't be a surprise for me if they communicate with each other in russian. It can also be a compilation where the scenes from Syria are put together with some scenes from Chechnya ot military training of russian army in its southern regions. I don't care what it is. I just don't make a super-dumb conclusion that if there is a video with a couple of russian words then Putin sent an army or two to Syria.

My conclusion is based on the initial analysis of the situation. First - the map. Syria is located far away and any delivery route has to cross a territory of the country which is either against Assad or an ally of the US, which is an obvious aggressor against the Syrian state. So Putin if he decides to send an army needs to secure the supply route. An army is not able to be supplied over the air. There need to be either a sea route or a ground road (preferably railroad). So before there is a decision made to send the army - there would be resultative negotiations between Russia and Turkey (which is already impossible, although in spring it looked quite an option), or a new route through Iran. And there is no way that this decision will be concealed. Such a thing as an army transportation is impossible to do without everyone knowing...

But for your kind it is necessary to make something that dummies would blindly believe. In one word it is this:


Will the russian army speak russian if they are sent to Syria? Yes.
Can a WMD be a white powder? Yes.
Is any russian words or white powder an undebatable proof of anything? No.

 

The U.S. is not taking ISIS seriously and is just tinkering around with them. Playing like we are at war with them, dropping a bomb here and a bomb there, fly a drone here and one there. I think when it comes to Syria, the U.S. needed to make a choice a long time ago. The U.S. needed to decide which would be worst in Syria and for the whole middle east. A Syria still ruled by Assad or a Syria ruled by ISIS. There are times when there is no good choices, when one must choose the lesser of two evils as is the case here. Of course there is a third choice and that is to do nothing and get the heck out and leave whatever is going to happen, happen.

It is long past time if the U.S. really wants to defeat ISIS to side with Assad. One of these two will end up in charge, the question is which one, Assad or ISIS. Working with Russia to defeat ISIS would be a great step in the right direction in my opinion.

 

BS, http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=423957&p=1065341788#post1065341788 made in Israel, Lviv, Hollywood?

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=423957&p=1065341788#post1065341788 i posted new pictures evidence from Syria, have you seen them?

 

I already answered that a picture is a picture. There is a hundred possible ways that it can appear in social networks. And thousand reasonable. But you want to use it for only one statement which was already claimed not to be true.

When\if russian army will come to Syria there will be a video of a general in command of an official division (with a number and city of constant location) and there will be the aim given to them which is either agreed with the US (which I doubt) or just lets them know of it (which is quite possible). Western propaganda media after it happens will not post any 'proofs'. There will be reports about the rapes of syrian democrat female-activists, photos of rotten and not-working military equipment, interviews of the holy warriors of Allah swearing to kill all the russian dogs and maybe some heads of anyone relating to russian state being cut off and moans about cruel aggressor Putin who completely lost his mind in his attempts to kill the best muslim flowers in the universe etc.

 

Yea, right - and they denied missiles in Cuba too - didn't they?...

Russia Denies Military Intervention in Syria; U.S. Seeks to Block Russian Flights
September 8, 2015 | Amid Russian denials that it is stepping up its military intervention in the Syrian civil war, the United States reportedly has asked the Greek government to deny Russia access to its airspace for flights carrying supplies to Syria.

 

With an addition in the patriot act our 1941 law that made it illegal for our gov't to feed the American people propaganda was done away with.

Now rationally, what this means is our gov't can lie to us now, either directly or using their corporate propaganda outlets which we call the NEWS.

If you therefore believe what is said about Russia and Putin, without trying first to check alternative sources, you are hardly intelligent.

BTW, when MSM started demonizing the popular leader Putin, we were taught in school in the 1950s, this was a huge red flag that propaganda was being fed to the people. It is one of the basic propaganda tactics, used on brains which have lost the ability to be rational and intelligent.

Sometimes I think the dumbing down of americans is intentional. The last thing an oligarchy wants are logical, well informed with facts, rational citizens. And the better the population will respond to propaganda, the better. And remember the term "conspiracy theory" was coined by our CIA for a reason and purpose.