Syria crisis: US concern over Russia 'military build-up'

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get one what ?

    Without folks thinking about how things should be, we would still be burning witches and stoning people for adultery.
     
  2. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    i see couple errors here, Bosnia works as along as Serbs are bad boys, once Serbia will be a EU country, it will be no Bosnia anymore. we have a batter example, Iraq how it works we know...Syria has a least 4 very different narratives, how can salafi/wahhabists , chicks with AKMs from YPG, alawites , south , can seat around the same table ? el jazeera agrees with me, nothing can bring Syria together . do you agree with me?

    ps

    4 countries: a) USA, b) Russia, c) Turkey, d) Iran.why you did not name KSA and gulf states?
     
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  6. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    really?) LOL, dont you know that its illegal under the new Putin´s law ?
     
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    DonRumataEstorsky Banned

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    The message of this article:
    You are a student of Jen Psaki?
     
  8. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    You are a student of Dimka Kiselev?
     
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    DonRumataEstorsky Banned

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    I do not distribute fakie how you. You constantly write some nonsense. You could hate Russia more politicly.
     
  10. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Its not about knowledge and education, though.
    Its about Attitudes.

    Th next generation even tells us, they are not like us.
    They don't think like we do.
    They try to tell us, they are not like we were when we their age.

    We think, "Yeah. They find out as time goes by."
    We believe they are like us.
    But they are right.
    They are not the same as we were.

    The attitudes of each generation change because the success our efforts and the efforts of previous generations before us.
    They live n a world that is different than the one we thought we lived inside.

    Sociologists say that in about 10 generations, roughly 250 years, every successful Nation or empire has burned out because the generations of people passed through seven Ages of Development, and then crashed into the oblivion of total destruction:


    Sir John Glubb
    The seven stages of the rise and fall of great nations seem to be:

    1) The Age of Pioneers (outburst)
    2) The Age of Conquests
    3) The Age of Commerce
    4) The Age of Affluence
    5) The Age of Intellect
    6) The Age of Decadence.
    7) The Age of Revolts or invasion.

    Decadence is marked by: I] Defensiveness, II] Pessimism, III] Materialism, IV] Frivolity, (sexual fun??) V] An influx of foreigners, VI] The Welfare State, VII] A weakening of religion.

    http://www.newworldeconomics.com/archives/2014/092814_files/TheFateofEmpiresbySirJohnGlubb.pdf
     
  11. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Russia ? you must be joking, ulus Muscovy . you guys have nothing to do with Kyiv Rus´

    this is your nationalist about your history ulus and Rus´(Ukrainian) history

    [video=youtube;ioHyPl4freQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioHyPl4freQ[/video]
     
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    The Economic Machinery does cause problems.

    Wars have usually occurred because the Politics between nations become unprofitable or threatened by stopping fair and open trading.

    Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because they thought America was going to stop access to Middle Eastern Oil.
    I think FDR was too.
    This happens time and again.

    What is happening now is that Iran believes it can monopolize all the Oil in the Middle East by grasping control through Islam as a Caliphate.
    And, ISIS has the same idea after it reconstitutes Iraq.
    In the middle of this,Turkey still smarts from have lost the Ottoman Empire, and believes in the end, another chance may be coming again.
    Russia see the opportunity for oil sales and transportation through ports in Crimea and Syria.
    Russia also knows the five Muslim southern States it once held power over, all have Oil fields now.
    Russia intends to dominate them and control the pipe lines and shipping of their oil as kind of monopoly too.

    Obama has been listening to Joe Biden whose ancient idea was that Iraq ought be three different nations, so he pretends to strike ISIS, but believed ISIS would eliminate Assad, and oppose the Iranians who were helping maintain power there.
    The Master Plan of Obama is to keep everyone fighting against one another for as long as possible, while protecting the home lands from internet terrorists.

    What I see is strongly influenced by what I read in the scriptures:

    Rev. 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal (of the Scriptures), I heard the voice of the fourth beast ([Ez 1:10], i.e.; sociologically speaking, the academic, educated, Integrated Group) say, Come and see.

    Rev. 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse (OF FOREIGN COLONIALISM, FOLLOWED BY INDEPENDENCE AND STAGNATION): and his name, (ISLAMIC SHARIA), that sat on him, (BACKWARDNESS), was Death, (THEOCRATIC OPPRESSION), and Hell (IN WORLD WIDE TERRORISM) followed with him, (FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM).
    And (RELIGIOUS) power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, (the Western World), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the (FOUR) beasts (i.e.; the chariots of Social Force, the four Social Groups) of the earth.


    THE BATTLE WILL RAGE FOR A LONG TIME.
    And all the Europeans will see Islam terrorize them like what was done in Iraq after Saddam was hanged:

    Jer 30:10 Then fear not, O Jacob my servant, declares the Lord, nor be dismayed, O Israel; for behold, I will save you from far away, (with American Military Forces), and your offspring from the land of their captivity. Jacob shall return (to Isarel) and have quiet and ease, and none shall make him afraid.
    11 For I am with you to save you, declares the Lord; I will make a full end of all the nations among whom I scattered you, but of you I will not make a full end. I will discipline you in just measure, and I will by no means leave you unpunished.
     
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    What's in it for America, that Russia, Iran, and Turkey has no more problems in the Middle East???
    The three of those nations are against the USA, directly or in a hidden way for now, as far as Turkey is concerned.
    America's best bet is to keep all her enemies fighting over there for as longas possible.

    The USA needs help who ever needs help.
     
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    Where in the Middle East were the Japanese buying oil?
     
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    i do agree with you its impossible to bring together the 4 narratives (YPG, salafi/wahhaby , baath, alawit,)
     
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    I am pretty sure the Japanese were getting their oil from Java and Sumatra... Not the Middle East.. Did that come from the Amplified Bible?
     
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    The Syrian people have been living peacefully for centuries before Washington and Israel decided they wanted Assad out and Syria broken in parts so it can be controlled. Syria and the lives of its people was destroyed to facilitate those two countries and a few others who wanted to grab a chunk of Syria for themselves; such as Turkey and Jordan.

    Russia has worked out a peace agreement for Syria together with Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Qatar and the Syrian opposition...and this is why Washington is only pretending to be fighting ISIS. They could finish ISIS off in two weeks, but they want the chaos to keep on going so the peace agreement can't be implemented.

    So Litwin enjoy the refugees, it seems if Washington has its way, they will be in Europe a long, long time.
     
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    ...ahhhh,.... it might not have been the Middle East.
    But it was an embargo on oil from somewhere, which eludes me right now.
     
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    So the idea of keeping our enemies too busy to gang up, together, on us,... is working pretty well then...?
     
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    Syria has not been peaceful for centuries... Assad's father was a mass murderer.

    What peace agreement has Russia worked out with the Saudis?
     
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    No, now I found it.
    The Japanese were getting their oil from us, The USA,... according to the Amplified Bible.
    Assistant Secretary of State Dean Acheson embargoed the whole thing,.
    The Japanese had no other course but to attack the Dutch East Indies.
     
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    Your whole scenario about Iran having a Shia Caliphate and controlling all the oilfields is pure idiocy. Iran is barely pumping 1.2 million bpd.
     
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    Because six corporations own all the medias, something that came about during the Clinton administration. I assume the same people who hold shares in them control Washington as well because of donations. Also if a publication goes against the Washington line, they might not have access to meetings and even worse, might have their broadcasting licenses revoked.

    One Russian said that the difference between the Soviet Union and the US., is that in the Soviet Union people knew that the press was not telling them the truth, while in the US they don't know.
     
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    Which dictator in Islam right now has no enemies he is fighting?
    Dictators always have enemies.
    Dictators hold power with force.
    All the dictators Jeanette named agreed that, together, Assad could dictate under the terms agreed to.

    They were have a democratic discussion among dictators.
    Amusing,...
     
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    Iran's return to world oil market will add to glut
    Here's more good news for gas prices: Iran is planning a big return to world oil markets.
    Iran has been shut out of Western oil markets for years due to sanctions
    Iran has the fourth biggest oil reserves in the world and is pumping about 2.8 million barrels a day, according to experts.

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/news/economy/iran-oil-production-zangeneh/index.html
     

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