Texas denying anchor babies birth certificates!

I am a US citizen from birth.. born in the US and natural born.. All my brothers were born overseas to US citizen parents (like thousands of other Americans) and they are also natural born US citizens from birth.

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Do you have a US passport? Have you had children overseas? Do you know what Americans do when they have a baby in a foreign country?

 

I agree that if you are a US citizen and have a child overseas it is a US citizen. It is not however an NBC as much as i would like it to be.

No I dont leave the US anymore. Yes I have a child in Japan but I have never seen it.

 

This is NOT a 14th Amendment issue, it simply is an issue of what ID is allowed to be used in the state of Texas for getting a Birth Certificate which allies equally to everyone whether born her of two US parents or two illegal parents having a child here - equal and fair. If they have suitable ID and a good list is there a Student ID, Photo Voter Identification, a Passport and so forth it seems to me easy to fix they just need proper ID from their home government a Passport for example.

 

True but were having so much fun

 

Since in my opinion this part of the Constitution can be interpreted in both ways it needs to be clarified and fixed. This country cannot continue to take on the unwanted from every corner of the globe. Hospital's labor and delivery units are getting hammered because ~25% of the deliveries are illegal immigrants. I don't know why you people just don't see where this is headed. Unless you like anarchy and overpopulation..

And I'm neonatology.

 

And if you are a child of an illegal immigrant, you wouldn't have citizenship. You would be illegal. Your children would also not have citizenship. And so on. So how many millions of people do you guys want to turn from productive citizens into criminals that need to have resources spent on them to be rounded up and deported?

 

Anyone born on American soil is an American citizen. This is very clear in the Constitution. They cannot be deported against their will.

 

Oooh .. I admire neonatologists.

What do you mean "you people"? I would like to see a moratorium on all immigration for 20 years and to see illegals deported..

However, I do understand the statutes for very personal reasons since all my brothers are natural born US citizens born in Dhahran.

 

People in this thread need to end their xenophobic rants about undocumented immigrants not being 'real' Americans. How else do you propose that we keep US worker wages competitive with third world hell holes? Do you want to work in the fields for 0.2 cents per hour while your plantation owner takes in 99.2% of the profit? I think not!

 

Oh the old 'who picks your vegetables' argument again. Get back to us when all 20 million illegal immigrants are actually working. Then I might be impressed and believe that pathetic argument.

 

Good job Texas

 

This is one case where I'll just admit I'm flat out okay with Texas violating the Constitutional rights of the US's (non)-citizens since the 14th Amendment has been abused from its original intent to provide citizenship paths to freed black slaves, and was never intended as a loophole for illegal immigrants to have their babies on our soil on taxpayer dime.

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Ironic since you said yourself in a previous thread that ideally you wanted to get rid of the Constitution entirely and replace it with a European style legal system.

But all of a sudden when it comes to the right of illegals to have their children provided on taxpayer's dime you're all for the Constitution.

 

If their here and have no record and a job Im not against giving them working papers but not citizenship and letting them stay. If they have papers and have a child here then let it be a citizen and thats going along way from my interpretation that at least 1 parent needs to be a citizen.

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If it was so clear we wouldnt be arguing over it now would we. I think its clear as well and see the opposite.

 

from an economic standpoint it would be cheaper to make a one off payment to have them deported that to pay for their healthcare, schooling, housing, welfare etc. for life.

 

It's ironic when some on the left complain about lower wages, higher costs of living, healthcare, etc yet at the same time encourage more illegal immigration and add to the very problem they decry - most likely either just out of fear of being branded "racist" or tacitly wanting a steady supply of future Democrat voters.

 

In 1898, the Wong Kim Ark Supreme Court case10,11 once again, in a ruling based strictly on the 14th Amendment, concluded that the status of the parents was crucial in determining the citizenship of the child. The current misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment is based in part upon the presumption that the Wong Kim Ark ruling encompassed illegal aliens. In fact, it did not address the children of illegal aliens and non-immigrant aliens, but rather determined an allegiance for legal immigrant parents based on the meaning of the word domicil(e). Since it is inconceivable that illegal alien parents could have a legal domicile in the United States, the ruling clearly did not extend birthright citizenship to children of illegal alien parents. Indeed, the ruling strengthened the original intent of the 14th Amendment.

 

I didn't say that I wanted to. I said that the Westminster model has its advantages, as does the Presidential model.

 

Ah but also so many more democrat voters

 

No, they cannot.

How about their mothers?

 

So you are in favor of amnesty for millions of "illegals"?

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Because everyone who is a child of an illegal immigrant is on welfare?

 

Mr. Trump will do what he can to shore up this archaic loophole.

 

I've read both. And of course I remember the other thread. I refuted this stupidity there too.

 

I don't consider it arcane. I just have to keep pointing out to you that it has absolutely no legal weight.


[QUOT]Most decisions are 5-4 and you keep referring to the notes of one judge to prove your point. [/QUOTE]
Uh, a majority opinion isn't "notes" lol.

The only way to abolish BRC is to amend the constitution and repeal the 14th.

 

You understand YouTube doesn't somehow overturn a Supreme Court ruling, or a,end the constitution right?

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There are only 2 types of citizen.

 

The difference being those using your argument are an extreme minority and have the same validity as moon landing deniers.

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And as I keep pointing out, Justice gray simply noted they were domiciled. It is not a condition of his citizenship.