70,000 Muslim Clerics Are Standing Up To Terrorism

Then we have an even bigger problem. The standard muslim isn't doing anything.

Great point.

 

Scholars? LOL! The Koran is a fictional book.

 

Who do you think read those articles in http://www.arabamericannews.com/new...mams-condemn-terrorism,-urge-solidarity.html?

Arabs and Muslims, the target audience? What would be the point of aiming at an audience of non-Muslims? A greater proportion of readers of ArabAmerican news will be Arabic. So this is the ideal type of site to backing anti-terrorism rallies. In fact, other media sources not reporting this event backs up Snake's question in post 85 : Of course TV should carry this stuff. The question which has to be asked is why that medium does not.

 

Those 70,000 clerics are listened to by millions and millions of "standard Muslims"

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The funny part is they used an act of congress to make Mc Cain a natural born citizen. Does anyone else see the obvious problem here?

 

That's like saying that the standard Italian isn't doing anything against the mafia. What exactly SHOULD they be doing? It isn't every Muslims' responsibility to take action against other Muslims from the other part of the world.

 

Italy prosecuted the Mafia and was attacked while doing it.

 

not all Muslims are Clerics

' 70,000 Muslim Clerics Are Standing Up To Terrorism "

70k is a big number, glad to see it

 

All in one country thats not even Muslim


Talk is cheap . Now if the majority of Pakistani Clerics opposed it and the government of Pakistan seriously went after them I may start to believe.

 

so what are you doing to stop it... if talk is cheap?

 

That's one.

Bad Citations:

40 no link
41 bad link no reverence to Lackwanna Six on page.
42 no link
44 Dawadi, as it turned out, was a confidential informant working for the NYPD.
45 bad link no page
47 bad link no page
48 bad link no page
49 no reference to Muslim informant
52 bad link no page, second link Imam actually warned suspect he was under surveillance.
53 no link
56 Muslim vendor reported smoke from the times sq suv bomb, not a terror plot.
57 NYPD under cover agent
58 bad link no page
60 bad link no page
62 bad link no page
63 informant multiple times felon, never names as Muslim.
64 bad link page not found.

Out of 24 alledged terror plots disrupted by the muslim community's involvement 17 can't be proven by the web pages citations. That leaves 7.

Lets look at 2015 alone, there were over 100 Islamist terrorist attacks in this year so far and it's not over. Sorry, I'm just not impressed with 7 in 15 years. According to the evidence only 1 was an Imam. Those who would be most familiar with their congregation.

 

Im not a Muslim. They should be stopping it if its so offensive and demeaning to their religion.

 

thats a bit more than 7 attacks

 

It's .0074% of the muslim population. Maybe one day 1% of muslims will oppose it?

Doubtful.

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When there is one BILLION of you, and only a tiny portion (as you claim) of muslim are terrorists, something should be done.

There is no excuse with those numbers. No excuse.

 

I reckon so. I just find it amazing how such a token effort is seem as some monumentous effort by by the left. The last time any group of people were this willing to kill others for an ideology was in 1939, appeasing them hoping they will go away resulted in WWII. Appeasing this group more than likely result in WWIII or a huge Korea style Police action. They'll figure it out when one of their kids comes up to them with a draft notice in hand that we should have done something before it was too late.

 

I've seen some videos from Brigitte Gabriel and she is anything but (level headed or fair & balanced) regarding anything with Muslims.

I've read her story and I realize that her & her family went through a lot at the hands of some twisted Muslims but it doesn't giver her the right to spew the brand of hatred she spews.

There is absolutely no space or air between her and Pamela Geller which is another one that is consumed with hatred, and they are both just as bad as Geert Wilders in Holland. (Oh I now the whole crew, trust me)

Labeling CAIR as an organization that wants to see Sharia law all over America is also just patently false. What is it anyway with labeling all minority groups that were created to help or advance "their" people's cause "terrorist's"?

I don't see anybody calling the "Sons of Italy" group a band of terrorist's.

I appreciate your thoughts on the subject but your reply is similar to many that ask to see some type of proof that Muslims are doing something to ratchet back against terrorism, and then when you get it or see it, the only thing you guys can muster is that your skeptical.

Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't bash them when their silent and bash them when they speak out, it just doesn't work that way, and it shows that truly your not willing to give any of them a chance, regardless of what they do.

And then you all wonder why you don't see or hear more from these people.

How would you feel if you were shoveling back dirt from you house, and the very people asking you to clean it up are constantly pouring more on your lawn....(while they're asking you to clean it up)?

 

And this"

"This bolstered "clerics from across the world, who were part of the event, [to pass] the fatwa," said one of the clerics, Mufti Mohammed Saleem Noori. They want to spread the message that they don't consider groups like the Islamic State to be true Islamic organizations -- nor do they view members of these organizations as Muslims.

The chairman of the gathering said that last month's terror attacks in Paris, for which the Islamic State has claimed credit, inspired the group of clerics to pass the fatwa in order to spread the message that Muslims condemn terrorism."

for you is nothing???

Your one hell of a human being, no extreme, impossible expectations or standards set on the moon coming from you....

 

This

a million times........

Excellent point, that will undoubtedly fall flat on people that absolutely have no intentions of ever giving an inch on this...

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"Italy"..............how about the millions of Italian Americans here at home?

THEY GLORIFIED IT, AND STILL DO!!!!!!

Stop now, your out of gas.

 

How do they "get loud"? Don't you need a camera from a media organization focused on you to "get loud"? How do you suppose they compete with terrorists to get that air time?

The fact is, us Westerners know about Muslims only what these political pundits tell us about them. You and I have zero information on them besides what a Westerner told us.

Unless some media organization finds a way to air peaceful Muslims' sentiments and get ratings from it, we won't know squat about the moderates

 

What? Americans glorify the mafia for money in movies. In real life, RICO cases were filed on all of the families and the mafia is virtually nonexistent.

Please name for me one living famous mafia boss openly operating in America.

 

You wrote "ZERO! When the Imam's that run the Mosques start turning in the radicals to the FBI and other law enforcement around the world, then I'll believe the really don't sympathize."
So one example would have met your requirements so clearly you were not saying the truth in your statement.

40 simple search : quote "The trooper found someone within the Portland Islamic community who had access to Battle and was willing to assist in the investigation. Those recorded conversations were essential to understanding the intent of the cell and securing successful prosecution"
https://leb.fbi.gov/2009-pdfs/leb-march-2009
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41 : While the Lackawanna group is still in Afghanistan, the FBI's Buffalo field office receives an anonymous, handwritten letter from someone in Lackawanna's Yemeni community. The letter says that a group has traveled to "meet bin Laden and stay in his camp for training." The author also writes, "I can not give you my name because I fear for my life."
The letter is routed to FBI field agent Edward Needham, who, at the time, is the only agent from the Buffalo office assigned to counterterrorism.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/sleeper/inside/cron.html

43 : In late 2002, the FBI's Washington field office received two similar tips from local Muslims: Timimi was running "an Islamic group known as the Dar al-Arqam" that had "conducted military-style training," FBI special agent John Wyman would later write in an affidavit.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/02/AR2006090201096_pf.html
44 "Dawadi, as it turned out, was a confidential informant working for the NYPD." Yes and? He is still a Muslim!

45 bad link no page : Other members of the Muslim community had already gone to federal authorities with information regarding violent and radical statements made by the men. After the Trainer contacted them, law enforcement began actively pursuing him, officials said yesterday.
http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-F...uspects-planned-attacks-in-Iraq-U-S-says.html

46 : Case proven

48 Steve Gentry, executive manager of the FBI’s counterterrorism program in Houston, estimates that a quarter of its investigations are initiated as a result of information from Muslim community partners.
http://www.thenation.com/article/fbis-good-muslims/

49 : proven

50: proven

51-63 I'm bored. All cases do have links found with simple searches

64:http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts...of-sami-osmakac-set-to-start-in-tampa/2181538
Osmakac was an outcast in the Tampa Bay Muslim community. He was kicked out of two mosques and was ultimately reported to the FBI by a Muslim acquaintance, who said he was looking for an al-Qaida flag and talking about planting bombs. According to a federal complaint, his targets were ever-changing.

So out of the first few links that are broken, simple searches have shown the evidence. Who cares if you're impressed. Then you change the subject with something completely irrelevant to your post in question. Wonder why you did that............................

 

The Mafia is done here . Its all Russians and Spanish and Black gangs now. Yes its good entertainment.

I thought you were sane

 

So then news need be cherry picked.So whenever a new soul food restaurant opens
up near Harlem but closer to Manhattan,then there would be no need for Whitey
advertisement in the New Yorker magazine.
I get how that works.

 

"70,000 Muslim Clerics Are Standing Up To Terrorism".......Thank god, finally! I look forward to seeing exactly which violent verses in the Qur'an and hadith they removed/altered.

 

Right, and the Muslims "over there" are being killed for standing up to ISIS, the Taliban, etc. They are doing this in their own country. I don't know what the hell you and the others think Muslims should be doing. Should Muslims drop their lives and fly to Syria to fight against the radicals?