An albatross around the neck of democrats

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We all know how Obama blamed Bush for anything that went wrong.

    IMO all that blame Obama placed on Bush will pale in comparison to the blame that will be placed on Obama and the democrats in the future. If ANY of the Sryian so called refugee end up killing Americans in the future, Obama and the democrat WILL be blamed and rightly so. There is no damned reason we should let even one of those possible muslim terrorist killers in the US at all.

    Rest assured that if God forbid, any of those Syrians kill even one American, tens of millions of real Americans and I wont let democrats forget who brought them here. This albatross is one that democrats wont be able to remove.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Given that it was Bush jr who created ISIS by disbanding the Iraqi army he is the one to blame for the Syrian refugees.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is an absolute lie. After Bush defeat Saddam Iraq was relatively quiet. Then the idiot Obama pulled all the troops out of Iraq creating a power vacuum, that gave rise to ISIS.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Facts from the Daily KOS(sacks)? :roflol:

    Obama WAS warned........Just too ignorant to listen and just too arrogant to care.
     
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    Don't think it will turn the tide for the Reps in any case..it is just a bird around his neck.
     
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    post 2 is correct, you are trying to rewrite history,
     
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    Methinks you should review the history of your enemy, before you go making a fool of yourself.

    AQI is ISIL. AQI formed in 2004, ISIL in 2006.

    After bush defeated Saddam in Iraq, it wasn't relatively quiet at all, unless you mean the end of major military operations (i.e. the invasion to occupation).
    Did you miss the necessity of the green zone in Bagdad or the internal fighting. did you miss the hundreds of shootings and bombings, the 4500 dead americans and the many more thousands of wounded?

    Partisan revisionist history for events only a decade or so old doesn't stand much of a chance of standing up to scrutiny, despite the political narrative surrounding it. (that goes for all sides)
     
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    There have been immigrants allowed into this country from various countries that have committed atrocities in America.
     
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    That not a single fact was refuted means that they all still stand uncontested.

    FYI ISIS began shortly after Bush jr illegally invaded Iraq.

    https://www.quora.com/How-did-ISIS-form-When-and-where-did-ISIS-begin

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    Why didn't Bush jr take his own advice?

    Instead Bush jr capitulated and negotiated the withdrawal of 100% of all US forces from Iraq and signed off on it.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush Bush Bush----------------more misdirection by liberals that dont want to talk about the fact at hand. We are talking about the fact that the idiot Obama is inviting possible murdering muslim terrorist into this country, and will forever be bound to that fact. No matter how long after he leaves office, if even one of those Syrians turn out to be an imbedded terrorist killer, Obama's name in history will be mud.
     
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    Based on a situation in the future I might add. The status of forces agreement is an Executive Agreement which in non-binding. The situation on the ground was worsening when Obama pulled troops out. Both Bush and his Military Generals warned against this......

    Obama was just too ignorant to listen and just too arrogant to care. ISIS is the product of Obama's incompetence and ego.
     
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    Relatively quiet? Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me?

    I guess San Bernardino was utter silence.
     
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    So why did Bush sign the SOFA mandating our withdrawal a year after he said that?
     
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    So you are arguing that Obama should have kept our troops in Iraq against the will of the sovereign Iraqi government?
     
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    Iraq wasn't quiet, and the troop withdrawal was the SOFA agreement BUSH put in place.
     
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    ISIS was born in Camp Bucca prison, Iraq in 2004.

    "The first of these developments has been building throughout the summer: a growing flood of Syrians fleeing the war. There are already almost 2 million in Turkey, over a million each in Jordan and Lebanon, and as many as 900,000 in Europe.

    Out of 23 million Syrians, some 11 million have been displaced by the war, and the Europeans are worried that many of those 11 million people will end up camping out on the banks of the Seine and the Ruhr. If the war continues into next year, that’s an entirely plausible prediction."

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/11/why-did-turkey-shoot-down-that-russian-plane/
     
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    Lets pretend for a minute your statement is true (only liberals will make this claim)

    President Obama had 6 years to isolate and stop ISIS. In August of 2014 he claimed ISIS was insignificant, a JV team on the world stage of Islamic terrorism. Then, only a week before 130 people were murdered in Paris by ISIS, he told the world ISIS was contained, only to be ridiculed again by the San Bernardino attacks.

    Is this the kind of Commander in Chief democrats support?
     
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    yeah, almost as bad as another president standing in from of a "mission accomplished" banner right?
     
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    GOD! how many times are we going to beat this DEAD HORSE:deadhorse:. President Dick Cheney and his little Billionaire Oil Puppet GW Bush started the War in Iraq and completely blew it to pieces and then conveniently made an agreement with the new sovereign government there to have U.S. forces out of there by 2011, 2 years into the new Democratic administration that was going to have to deal with this mess they created in the first place after allowing America to be attacked on 9/11/2001 resulting in the DEATH of almost 3000 people. See! it's a Catch 22 with you Pubbies, because had he not withdrawn troops out of Iraq and 4000 more American Soldier been killed, you'd be blaming him for not obeying GW Bush's SOFA agreement. This is just typical Republican revisionist history where they want to place blame where it doesn't belong. Try again SUCKA'S
     
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    Deflecting will not erase the fact that this administration has failed the American people by it's inept national security policy.

    Perhaps that's why 70% of American think the country is heading in the wrong direction and 8 out of ten think his policies are failing!
     
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    it wasn't a deflection. and how has this administration failed the American people?

    source?
     
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    Sorry but blaming Bush after 7 years of Obama is pure deflection, you can deny it all you want but it's obvious you don't want to talk about what's happening now, you instead want to deflect blame anyway you can.
     
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    uh, not it isn't as he was the direct cause of what you are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about.

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    I have no problem talking about whats is happening now. what would you like to discuss?

    I'm still waiting for you to explain how the administration failed the American people.
     

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