Tamir rice protesters want cleveland prosecutor to step down

Uh he never drew it on the officers, so that puts an end to that lie from the get go.

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You mean tell the black kids of course, because this doesn't happen to white ones.

 

You know there is a reason that look-alike firearms have to have a orange tip. White kids got shot when laser tag and gotcha were popular.

 

You're right, at least partly about a White neighborhood. The risk would have been less but still there. Just why would that be? It wouldn't be because of a high crime thug culture would it?

 

Something very similar happened to me as a kid. Me and a couple of friends took our BB guns and bows and arrows down to the river. We set up the paper targets that you see on gun ranges, and were just having fun. Nearest residence or business was at least a mile away. No danger to anyone, no one was around.

Apparently someone who drove over the bridge above called the cops on us, because when we were walking back up the river embankment, 6-8 cops crested it at the top with guns drawn, screaming at us to drop the weapons.

The reason I am telling this, is because I can attest that the first time someone points a loaded gun at you, you enter a state of shock. I remember they had to tell me repeatedly for a few seconds to drop my BB gun (which was NOT pointed at them). I remember I instinctively raised the rifle (with the barrel pointing to the side). I don't know why I did this. I think it was instinct to show them that the gun wasn't real. It only lasted a few seconds, and then I realized I needed to drop it. But for those first few seconds, their commands weren't registering. I could only see the guns pointed at me.

I think Tamir may have been in shock just like me, and he may not have been drawing his gun in an attempt to fire a BB gun at a cop. He may not really have known what he was doing.

 

I'm sure there are lawyers willing to take that angle, but if that actually worked, then I would think replicas would no longer be made.

 

The grand jury chose not to indict Pantaleo, but the City of New York settled out of court with Garner's family for $5.9 million.

 

Yes he did. The video clearly shows him pulling it from his waist band right when the cops pulled up. That qualifies as a draw. Whether he had some other intention with that move, we will never know.

"Hands up. Don't shoot" was a massive lie as well.

 

Profits for makers/sellers of replica "toy" guns .. ???

 

The black community said the same thing about the "gentle giant, Mike Brown", and it was a massive lie. Didn't stop the rioting and looting though. All on a lie. Brown was a thug who attacked a police officer. "Hands up. Don't shoot" was one giant lie, courtesy of the black community.

BS. While kids of either race being gunned down by police is exceedingly uncommon, there are plenty of unarmed whites gunned down by cops. More than are blacks. Your assertion has no basis in even an informed opinion, much less the truth.

 

Very good point that you may not realize you made …

Street cops every hour of every shift aren't in a movie or TV show … If they're shot, the don't get another chance to reappear in next week's episode as if it was all make*believe …

And a cop rolling up on a report of "a person pointing a gun at others" may well have to make a split second decision without the luxury of first -- or later -- rechecking the 911 call transcript or sitting back to see what might happen if only if only ...

 

Can you show us the video where this 12yr old was in a fight with the officer that shot him.

If that is the case then you shouldn't have a problem posting your proof of this.

 

It was said several times that the gun could be a fake, but for some odd reason dispatch didn't relay that to the officers.

 

And you think that reason was what?

 

I don't know, that is why I am asking.

 

This may be true there's nothing to suggest that couldn't have been the case.

 

It doesn't matter if the dispatcher told them it could be a fake or not. When they showed up he went for it. It looked real enough. So they defended themselves. Police do not take chances, especially in today's day and age with people trying to kill police like its a game. Police will go home at night

 

And what would that have changed?

 

If dispatch had told the officers, "There is a twelve year old boy in the park playing with a toy gun …. " … ???

 

But they did not know that it WAS a toy, or that the 170 pounder was a 12 year old. The cops responded to a "guy" pointing a gun recklessly. Already noted 50 times in thread. There's a dozen "What ifs" in this incident. Doesn't matter.

 

they were wrong for shooting a unarmed child, they mistook the child for being armed, which means they did not intentionally do wrong, but the wrong was done just the same

if one backs over a child while backing out of the parking lot, they may of mistaken there was no one behind them, but the child was still killed, even though it was a accident, they will possibly be sued, because the child did not deserve to be killed, even though one could argue the child should not of been playing behind a car, it's still partly the fault of the driver and his company if it was a delivery driver

the police killed a child, they made a mistake, one that people can see was obviously an accident..... but they are still partly responsible in the same way

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No, they didn't. They didn't see him waving a gun at anyone. The video quite clearly shows them driving right up to him and jump out of the car guns firing. They didn't assess the situation. They just drove up and shot him because someone told them the kid might have a gun.

Anyone agreeing with this shooting is agreeing that if someone tells a cop that someone else is armed that cop has the right to just shoot that person without any assessment of the situation beforehand.

 

What I most find funny about this is that if the cops shoot a black person for carrying in public everyone in this forum says that the cops couldn't be too careful, they want to go home to their families, etc but if the cops dare to just talk to a white person as to why they're carrying in public suddenly it's a violation of the second amendment, the cop should go to prison, didn't that cop swear an oath to uphold the constitution, etc, etc, etc, etc.

 

The officers relied on (1) information from dispatch, and (2) what they saw when they arrived … They DID make an "assessment" … and acted accordingly ...

 

Have you even seen the video? They just drive up, jump out and open fire. There's no time for any assessment.

 

So they saw no one … saw nothing … and just got off a few shots randomly … ???