What positive things can you say about President Obama?

Hillary has weakened her popularity as people she who she really is and how much corruption she can into which she can delve and then so desperate to keep the women's vote she tried to pretend everyone had forgotten about the sex scandals and the women victims of her husband and she stuck her toe into the water and almost got it snapped off and awakened those alligators which will not go away. Bring out first Bill then Chelsea both of whom had to be immediately reeled in.

So what can you say good about her and it doesn't appear Obama is going to help out much cause as we see here not much can be said good about him either.

 

No, you didn't, but I'm glad you agree now.

 

What stands in her favor are her political knowledge and experience, plus the fact that she has the deepest understanding off ALL of he issues and is by far the most intelligent. Give Cruz or Trump just a six-month stint as Secretary of State in these troubled times and I guarantee that neither would fare well when put under a microscope like Hillary.

Did having Billy for a brother make Jimmy Carter a bad President?

 

Personally..... I have to admit that I basically agree with these positive assessments of Ms. Clinton although................. I am hoping that she does NOT receive the Democratic Party nomination!

In another thread I gave an example of the type of thing that she could do that would impress me........post #2.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...on-brinkley-v-p-2016-presiden-usa-2024-a.html

 

I am an avid fan of science fiction, but I don't allow that to obscure my perception of reality. I am not the naïve one in this conversation, and I WILL NOT tag along while you follow your clairvoyants into Never Neverland.

 

I think it was back in 2007 or 2008 when I joined a Facebook group entitled "One Million Strong for Barack Obama."

I saw this group go well over one million members and the discussion forum was extremely active and interesting.

I was promoting an alternate method of addressing climate change and you would be amazed how angry a high percentage of the Admins in that group got at me for daring to deal with that topic from a different angle and using different terms than Mr. Al Gore has done.

It seems that one of the biggest problems in the Obama Administration has been that he may have surrounded himself with helpers who are just too angry....... and too concerned over political correctness. If he were to do a better job of hiring assistants who were more well informed and less hostile he really could have an excellent last year in office?!

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I am in agreement with environmentalist and economist Bjorn Lomborg that a carbon shift policy will probably be ineffective over the short term in combating global temperature increases or in preventing a destructive rise in world ocean levels.

Two effective methods to combat global warming and simultaneously fight rising ocean levels have been proposed by New Mexico biologist Carl Cantrell.

Another promising method to green the deserts is to use hydrogen fuel cell technology to power vehicles in the hottest and driest regions of the earth. Imagine millions of vehicles across the Sahara, the Middle East, near the US Mojave desert and in the outback of Australia all spewing harmless water vapor as exhaust! Rest assured humidity and rainfall wi

 

He kept the country from collapsing, the economy grew but slightly. I just feel like he didn't live up to the hype. In 2008 his whole campaign was about change, change, change and he gave us very small change. Everybody was excited and thrilled when Obama got elected Republicans and Democrats. He definitely was not a bad president by any means. There needs to be a change in the system. The special interests, donors, control Washington and their politicians on both the Democratic and Republican side. Even though they control a lot, Obama could've not went against his beliefs and pushed for what people wanted in 2008, the sole reason why he was elected.

 

That's where the Alinskyism comes in, keep repeating a lie over and over and eventually the people will start believing you.

Where Obama failed was surrounding himself with incompetent people who's main job was protecting Obama. Every executive branch of government has been politicized under Obama including the DOJ, IRS and even the uniform serviced of the military where the main job of the military today is social engineering in the name of diversity.

Within 90 days of being POTUS Obama realised the job of POTUS was larger than he was. But the Obama's (Barack, Michelle) and of course Valerie said what the hell, we hit the biggest latto of them all, lets just do as the Beverly Hillbillies would.

 

Yes...... a few weeks ago I left Canada's Liberal Party and joined Canada's Conservative Party on January 1 or 2, 2016.

I have initiated a Facebook group and page encouraging the highly popular M. P. for my area, Central - Nova, to campaign for the office of National Leader of the Conservative Party.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/697266347074933/
Canadians 4 Peter MacKay for Conservative Leadership.

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I am planning on initiating a campaign.... to be chosen as Conservative Party representative for the office of M. L. A. perhaps in Pictou - Centre again, where I campaigned back in 2006.

One of my Facebook notes will give you a good idea of what my campaign will focus on:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/turk...ician-the-film-series-concept/310416062401072

Canada's Worst Politician, the film series concept?!

.....(With a combined total of only 31 votes in all three of my campaigns put together...... it can be argued that I am one of Canada's WORST politicians)!

 

Frankly..... I think that you are correct!

I basically agree with how President Obama handled the debt crisis back in 2008 and 2009 and to a degree that most of us may not even know about until years if not decades in the future..... in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and even 2015!

I do believe that you have gotten to the core of one of his ..... and his administration's ..........greatest achievements!!!!!

 

Very interesting DT.....especially the desert reclamation part. Okay I've been giving it some thought and came up with a few positive things to say about Obama. But when I think of the awful damage he has done to our country, the positives become irrelevant. As if one were to give another a dollar and then rob them of their priceless heirlooms. "Well," said the victim, "he did give me a dollar."

 

Think it out dude.

I think you should consider cutting back on the science fiction.

Leibovich "is the national correspondent for The New York TimesMagazine, based in Washington... In 2011 he received a National Magazine Award for his Times Magazine story on Politico's Mike Allen. Leibovich was previously a political correspondent in the Times Washington Bureau, and before that worked for the Washington Post and the San Jose Mercury News, He lives with his family in Washington."

That's what it says on the dust cover. Do you think its "science fiction" "Never Neverland"?

 

kons were excited only with the thot of a 21st century lynching!

especially considering how kons accepted bim with open arms and couldn't wait to put their petty partisan life's blood aside and work with the new pres in times of crisis like any true patriot would, like we all did for W after 9-11 only to be screwed royal, and work together so that things would be better for the next guy, but oh look, it happened any way even with kons being as filthy as they could for 8 years on top of the Bush years, the worst in history

 

Benghazi was just a failure of leadership that got 4 Americans killed. As with any situation like that it's not so much what happened, but the sloppy attempt at covering it up that will sink her. The eMail server is different. Patraeus brings a three ring binder with classified material home and he's charged with a crime. Hillary stores classified material on an exposed internet connected server in her basement, then hands it off to an IT company without security clearances which back up to another company without security clearances. Please tell me why she shouldn't be charged with the same thing as Patraeus?

 

Bush was in favor of amnesty for illegals, he didn't grant it by executive order.....slapping the face of the majority of Americans.

Attack on family in Compton latest incident in wave of anti-black violence

A Latino gang is intimidating blacks into leaving the city that was once an African American enclave. It's part of a violent trend seen in other parts of the L.A. area.

Straight outta Compton courtesy of Obama. By all means read the whole story at the link above.

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According to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday, nearly six in 10 American voters do not trust Hillary Clinton.

Considering her image with the American people, I think Bernie will beat her in both New Hampshire and Iowa. Folks simply don't trust her.....and with good reason.

 

Does that mean all illegals are enrolled in Obamacare?

When did this battle between Latinos and blacks start in LA?

Isn't the major source of this battle drugs?

 

For the record......… I quoted you in full over into another thread........... I love it when I can find something very positive about a person or situation or event and ......… what you wrote has really gotten me thinking!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=412174&page=3&p=1065752928#post1065752928

Presidents Reagan and President George W. Bush, my two favourite American Presidents.

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I just got back an exceptionally insightful comment that sets the stage for the case that could be presented by people who will come to consider President Obama..... to be one of their all time favorite USA Presidents!

 

Speaking of 9-11 I began a discussion yesterday that I would love to get your reaction to.

Please keep in mind that the ideas expressed have significant "Artistic Value"... that I personally think can be transformed into "Diplomatic Value" and eventually even into Economic Value because the USA............… in theory could be led up out of a relative economic slump by HOLLYWOOD as well as by your film and media industry in general?!?!

America produces the absolute best English language films in just about every category that I can think of and.........… this could be far far far more valuable than the guys and gals on Wall Street realize at this time!?

Those ten USA States that are considering minting a state coin..... and are encouraging local communities to initiate organizations like the Ithaca Hour.........… could find that local and state money could finance a boom in your film industry and .......... local currency in theory could be used to address specific problems people are facing.........… getting us inspired and motivated is important!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...souls-those-who-died-september-11-2001-a.html

What happened to the souls of those who died on September 11, 2001?



I read much of this several years ago and I personally........ do happen to believe in the basic accuracy of what three time near death experiencer Dr. P. M. H. Atwater reports seeing happening to the souls of those who died on September 11.

I personally do not think that this contradicts the Christian or Jewish Bible teachings on what happens to us after we die!

I honestly believe that Muslims could well come to a much more peaceful understanding of how they should understand the Koran due to this account!

Please notice... the author has made this available to all of us for FREE!

 

Hyper partisans, both nut jobs who believe that the twice-popularly-elected President is a foreign-born, madrasa-indoctrinated, communist, mentally defective anti-christ and those that worship him as if he were the messiah after a good cup of coffeee will, inevitably, intone their respective pans and panegyrics, but the steady overall assessment by Americans is that he has been as average, middling, mediocre POTUS.

Current estimation typical:

1/13-15/2016..........APPROVE: 49%..........DISAPPROVE: 46%​

Neither his demonizers nor deifiers will thrill at the highly consistent appraisal, but 52.9% voted for him in 2012 (45.7% for his Republican opponent) and 51.1% of the electorate voted for him in 2012 (47.2% for his Republican opponent) and the objective judgment indicates that the overwhelming majority feel that they have had their expectations amply fulfilled.

Exalt or excoriate, when he completes his second term, he'll neither be posing for Gutzon Borglum nor sharing Dubya's political exile when he absconds from public housing.



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They get it Professor. They have to pretend that they don't. Politics.

 

Good points!

Even President Nixon, in spite of all his many many serious flaws....... deserves a great deal of credit for saving thousands, more likely tens of thousands of lives in Israel by coming through for P. M. Golda Meir with a great deal of aid as things were looking bad during the Yom Kippur war!

Frankly.............. the day may come when we discover that if President Nixon had NOT came through so effectively for Israel....... Israel might have resorted to drastic measures and .................

 

Israel may still resort to drastic measures. By attempting to sabotage the deal, it recently aided and abetted the radical right in Iran that opposed the international agreement to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear arsenal.

Amongst other issues, Nixon's rapprochement with the People's Republic of China and his support for universal health coverage have proved prescient.

All blessings are mixed, and so is the legacy of every POTUS.

 

The Obama administration broke its no lobbyist promise fast. Politics has always been a pool of corruption and sanctioned crime. The "progressive" "conservative" shuck is just the shiny coat of paint over the little red and blue corvettes we love to see race each other endlessly around the same circle.

“Lobbyist can offer, in other words, an implicit preemptive payoff to powerful government officials. It happens not only on the Hill but in the boastfully anti-lobbyist, anti-revolving-door Obama White House. Scores of administration officials had by 2010 left the administration for K Street jobs without anyone so much as pointing out that they were defying a central tenet of the Obama political enterprise.” … “There's a payoff," Hess [Stephen Hess Brookings Institution] concluded using the word “payoff” with no apparent wryness.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, pp. 163,164.”

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And always remember - Nixon was NOT a crook!

 

As I said,

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Freedom and liberty include NOT making those choices.

Glad you agreed if you just want to get petty about it.

 

Her knowledge and experience is in how to engage in corrupt unethical behavior and acts and how to get away with them.

Like the ATUMF? And there is no indication she is particularly intelligent ESPECIALLY against someone like Cruz or Kaisch or a host of others even Rubio. She acts solely on political expedience and what will gain her the most power and money.

I wouldn't put Trump as SecState but I would Cruz or Fiorino or Rubio in a heartbeat over Clinton but then LOTS of people would better her dismal record.

Not after he kicked out of the White House scene, but then having him as a brother was not a voluntary act was it?

But it gets down to one simple fact, can Hillary be trusted in office? The answer is a resounding NO. She should NEVER be put back into a position of the public trust.