* BREAKING: Cruz' eligibility going to court !

The Circuit Court of Cook County in Chicago has agreed to hear a lawsuit on Sen. Ted Cruz's eligibility for president — virtually ensuring that the issue dominates the news in the run-up to the South Carolina primary.

Cruz was born in Canada to a US citizen mother and a noncitizen father. The Constitution requires presidents be "natural-born citizens," but what exactly that requires hasn't been settled in court.

Now, perhaps, it will be. The lawsuit in Illinois aims to resolve the question by challenging Cruz's eligibility for the presidency. It was filed by Lawrence Joyce, an attorney who has told local media that he supports Dr. Ben Carson and has had no connection with the Trump campaign.

"Joyce said his concern is that the eligibility issue lie unresolved during Republican primaries, thus letting the Democrats take advantage of it after a potential Cruz nomination, when it’d be too late," reports The Washington Examiner.

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/18/11058038/ted-cruz-court

My take;

Born in Canada
Canadian birth certificate
Immigrated to US when he was four
Only renounced his Candian citizenship in 2014

He is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, he is a Naturalized one.

He is NOT eligible to run !

 

Doesn't matter much anyways since trump is running away with it.

 

trump is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing fool for pushing this

 

For a "fool", he sure is good at winning. I look forward to your excuses when he wins South Carolina.

 

Not so sure. This line in the article makes a good point about why it needs to be looked at now rather than later.

Now obviously if you were a Democrat hoping to see Cruz get the nomination, then try and take him out with this...then yeah, it sucks to ahve this one pulled out from under you I guess. Not sure how it will turn out, but better to put it to rest now IMO.

 

Maybe we can get a mod to merge the threads, before there are 4 or 5 of them.

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...uz-his-eligibility-president-going-court.html

 

We've already shown our national disinterest in where a person is born where election to the presidency is concerned. To this day you can find very convincing documents and supporting narratives to indicate that Barack Obama was not a "natural-born" citizen of the United States.

How odd. I've been cursed as "a birther" for years for even bringing the subject up, or showing copies of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate, or pointing out numerous fallacies and inconsistencies in the "Hawaiian birth" story line, documents, the "tale of two hospitals", etc. But now it's all some big deal if Cruz was born in Canada? I'll say the same thing to you about Cruz that I heard so very often when I'd beat the drum about Obama -- "who cares...?"

 

apologizes, i didn't see it

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What the hell are you talking about ? He was born in Hawaii - END OF STORY. You seem to have alternative reasons for your hatred of Obama. That's on you.

 

LOLOL.. are you still talking about the name of the hospital? Read the history of the hospital and its expansions since 1961.

This birther stuff just gets more and more ridiculous.

 

Coming from the unprincipled ..

 

Send that Canadian moose hunting !

 

they said that but

""Joyce said his concern is that the eligibility issue lie unresolved during Republican primaries, thus letting the Democrats take advantage of it after a potential Cruz nomination, when it’d be too late," reports The Washington Examiner."

 

My hunch is that it's going to take a direct opponent to file a lawsuit in order to be able to show personal harm.

But this definitely isn't "settled law". The McCain situation was very different because he was born on a US Naval Base.

There has never been a situation quite like Calgary Ted's, and the natural born thing needs clarification.

Of course, if Republicans continue their expected SCOTUS intransigence - it'd end up a 4-4 tie and nothing would be resolved.

 

But it will damage Cruz even more - which is a good thing.

 

McCain was NOT born on the naval base... but both his parents were US citizens so he's a natural born US citizen from birth.. You don't have to be in the military.. You can work for GE or ARAMCO, teach school etc.

 

Obama was born in Hawaii... funny birthers go after Obama, but not Cruz, when Crus was NOT born in the USA

 

Ted was a US citizen the second he was born, as per federal law.

he is a NBC.

 

What a waste of time and resources.

First off Cruz is irrelevant.

Then there is this....

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time.
And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United(*)States.

The Supreme Court has long recognized that two particularly useful sources in understanding constitutional terms are British commonlaw and enactments of the First(*)Congress.
Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent.

http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

 

Lol, well even if you ignore the mountain of evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii .. his situation would be no different than Calgary Ted's.

Born in Kenya to a mother who was an American Citizen right?

 

I agree - but he is a Naturalized citizen, not a Natural Born. It's obvious the Founding Fathers believed there was a difference as the two terms wouldn't exist otherwise.

 

Hmmm .. i've never seen anything to the contrary, but perhaps i'm mistaken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

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I'm all for that Channe .. the thought of Joe McCarthy Jr as president gives me the willies.

 

if you are born of a US citizen on foreign soil, you are a citizen at birth, as per federal law.

 

He wasn't?

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His mother, Roberta McCain, has said that she has vivid memories of lying in bed listening to raucous celebrations of her son's birth from the nearby officers' club.(*)

 

I could be mistaken as well, but it seems to me that the birther argument at the time was that he was born off base... which makes NO earthly difference.

 

This won't matter....

what will matter is tomorrow in South Carolina.

If Cruz comes in 3rd behind Trump and Rubio?....and then it looks like he'll do it again next week in Nevada?.....he's finished.

Apart from Cruz winning Texas and maybe one, two other states...Trump would win every State on Super Tuesday, March 1st.