Why is racism completely wrong?

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  1. Super21

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    I was reading some philosophers the other day and some argued that the truth is usually in the center of two extremes, meaning that to say one extreme is completely wrong is untrue. But this is basically what liberals and conservatives argue with racism. ALL RACISM is wrong, no exception.

    Why do people believe that all racism is wrong? Why is it so taboo to be a racist or at least have partially racist beliefs? Personally, I believe extreme racism is wrong if you end up murdering people just because they are of another race. But there is nothing wrong with harboring some racist feelings as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

    Please discuss your thoughts.
     
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    It's about morality. It shows the morality of a person to call someone a racial slur.
     
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    That doesn't answer the question. That can qualify of extreme racism, which could be wrong, but not moderate or little racism. Me personally, I am not an extreme racist but a moderate racist. I believe the truth is usually in between two extremes and its best if liberals and conservatives compromise and go to the center.
     
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    First and foremost because there is NO SCIENTIFIC evidence for race except for the human race that is.

    Second, to judge people negatively based solely on the color of their skin betrays ignorance and more than a little propensity for being a sociopath.

    Third, it show a complete inability to empathize.

    Fourth, there is no such thing as harmless racism.

    Fifth, the negativity expressed in any form of racism could easily consume you.

    Sixth, negativity always leads to anger and frustration which leads to more negativity.

    Seventh, race is a social construct that has no basis in reality and therefor is a complete illusion.

    Eighth, negative energy combined with illusion of what is reality leads to probable mental anguish.

    There are more but you get the picture.
     
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    Do you have proof? If there is no such thing as race, then why do police use anthropology to identify the race of murder victims?

    Nobody does that.

    If I don't act on my racist beliefs, how can you argue it harms people?


    Having an anti-racist delusion will hurt someone more.

    How can you argue that skin color and the physical differences of race are an illusion?
     
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    Then how can somebody be a racist if race doesn't exist? Unicorns don't exist, so there's nothing wrong with hating something that doesn't exist. PETA doesn't have a leg to stand on, so they can't complain.

    Nice opinion, but it's not an argument.

    Another opinion... hmm...

    No, you've already established that there is no such thing as race. Therefore there's nothing to hurt.

    Nice that you care about the health of racists, but to each his own. It's dangerous to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, but I'm not going to become a helmet nazi.

    Anger leads to violence, and sometimes violence is necessary.

    we've already covered this.

    What is negative energy? Are you trying to attach moral values on emotions? This emotion is good, but that emotion is bad. Seems we have emotions for a reason, or evolution would have dumped them like eyeballs on the soles of our feet.

    Yes, I get the picture. By saying that race doesn't exist, racism hurts nobody.
     
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    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    Because if a politician gets labeled "Racist," it can ruin his political career.
     
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    Some of the nicest people I've known have been racists.

    Your diagnosis of negativity is simply projection. It has no basis in reality.

    An old white woman from Texas of my acquaintance told me of her families black gardener who left for California and returned after two years and got his job back. His diagnosis:

    "In California, they love my people, but hated me as a person. In Texas, they hate my people, but love me as a person."

    SJWs overcompensate for their subconscious racism by hating other white people who aren't as ardent as they are. They project their hatred onto white people in an attempt to feel superior to them.
     
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    I believe deep down everyone has some racist thoughts or tendencies. Most just won't admit it.

    Anyone who says they have never had racist thoughts is lying, IMO.

    Notice I said thoughts. You can have a thought without acting on it.
    Just put it out of your mind and go on. Just like any other temptation.
     
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    Hardly. There have been many very racist politicians whose racism helped their careers. Hell, the Obama administration is chock full of blatant racists, just as Obama is racist.
     
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    What if the nation you lived inside of had green colored people who as a group, never married and raised 73% of all their families inside the Welfare System?
    If you understood that Green children suffered tremendous child Abuse while growing up, but as bastards adults were responsible for 70% of all violent crime in your cities, would you respond negatively every time you met a new green person?

    Because you only responded when these people were green, were you a racist or a wise, knowledgeable citizen desiring the safety of getting away from them asap??
     
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    Because Racism attacks the cause of equality and fairness. Would you like it if someone discriminated against you based on your race? I'm sure you wouldn't.
     
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    Nothing is wrong with racism and everybody is racist to some degree. It only becomes a problem when you discriminate on that thought.
     
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    What if the nation you lived inside of had green colored people who as a group, never married and raised 73% of all their families inside the Welfare System?
    If you understood that Green children suffered tremendous child Abuse while growing up, but as bastards adults were responsible for 70% of all violent crime in your cities, would you discriminate every time you met a new green person?

    Because you only discriminated when these people were green, were you a racist or a wise, knowledgeable citizen desiring the safety of getting away from them asap??
     
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    Because it's stupid.
     
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    Discriminate yes but that is not based on racism, that is based on economics. I do not hate the green people, I hate their actions. A racist person would discriminate against the green people regardless if they were the best citizens or the worse.
     
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    Good post! IMHO most people harbor racist thoughts. I can respect someone who will admit it. The people who constantly judge others for benign racist thoughts are hypocrites. These same people (most likely) get nervous if two black youths approached them at night. Would that be considered a racist thought? I would say so. Is that racist thought anything to be ashamed of? In my opinion No. It's called "Reality."
     
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    I'll put it to you this way.

    Racism is easy. It's like pooping in your pants. We all did it at one point or another, but we should have been taught how to control it as we got older.

    So, you're trying to justify pooping in your pants?





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    or help his career when it comes to the white supremacist movement
     
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    It's mostly based on fear and ignorance. There are skilled neurosurgeons in Nigeria, clueless clods in Finland, etc.

    What does bug me is the disproportion of marathoners in Kenya and the dominance of blacks in the NBA. I think all of the top sprinters in the world are black. All of the best swimmers are white. (Are there any top Asian swimmers?) One hates to generalize, but are all of those instances merely environmental? I won't say that one race is better than another. But some physical abilities seem undeniably more concentrated in one race than another.
     
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    Why is that a problem?
     
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    Racism is just an oversimplification of the social world around us, and like most shortcuts related to judging other people it can lead to unfair assessments. Even if Black people tend to commit more crime, it could first of all be due to their subculture, and second of all even if there were a genetic component there are many exceptions to the rule. It's hard to say to what extent people have free will, but it's very clear that behavior is multi factorial and not predestined. So it would be unfair to assume somebody is a criminal just because they're black. Correlation is not destiny.

    If the world we lived in were objective, this is how it would be seen. Hardcore racists would just be seen as simpler people who don't think very deeply about the nuances of the social world, and can be left to their own opinions provided they don't harm other people, not some kind of dangerous scourge to be ostracized and fought. But as with many things, a bad historical experience leads to an overreaction in the opposite direction. America's experiences with slavery, treating black people as if they were not fully human, as well as how we were towards the natives, were horrible. But instead of approaching the subject rationally, the pendulum has now gone far the other way so that anybody suspected of having racist thoughts is ostracized. And now we're supposed to go out of our way to make sure every kind of person is represented everywhere to try to make up for personal biases. But people are almost programmed to view "others" with suspicion. Our species developed in a tribal context where the unit of survival is your immediate kin/kith and others are potential trading partners at best, but usually competitors/enemies (though I guess after you kill all the men you'll probably keep some of their women). It is no surprise we will tend favor people more like ourselves than others. This is why diversity tends towards strife.
     
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    There are clearly ethnicities, and that is what people usually mean when they say race. Race is more of a visual, socially constructed category while ethnicity is the more origin-based one. Racists do tend to overstate the biological differences between ethnicities, but race is just a simplified version of ethnicity that uses the more readily available visual cues.

    Being a sociopath means you have no conscience. When a sociopath hurts somebody, their only concern is if there will be consequences to themselves. You can certainly look down on people, whether justified or not, but have a conscience.

    Not really. It seems more like just misplaced and premature judgement. If you look down upon a murderer and call them bad, do you lack the ability to empathize, or are you just being judgmental?

    Sure there is. If an old white guy hates black people but just avoid them, like he does most people, who is being harmed?

    I don't think this is true. Racism is just premature and arbitrary judgement. You don't have to be seething with hatred to view a type of person unfavorably. Are you consumed with negativity if you hate criminals? Not necessarily, not unless your name is Nancy Grace. The only difference is the judgement of criminals is a more reasonable position and they "deserve" it to a greater extent.

    No I would say there's a lot more anguish seeing things as they are. In the case of racists, that they're total losers themselves... j/k
     
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    Sure, that way the liberal religion can push their myth of racism. The definition of racism proves the beliefs of liberals on racism is a myth.
     
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    Sometimes there is a right and a wrong...

    Racism is wrong. Trying to excuse it just says that you embrace your racism
     

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