Trump tells Matthews "women deserve some type of punishment for abortions"

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abortions clearly disgust you.
     
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    Yes, because allowing those things causes chaos in society.....abortion does not cause chaos
     
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    Abortion isn't "baby killing"... that's what those ignorant of facts call it and your statement : : """Baby killing should never be punished. """

    Is disgusting..
     
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    No, it is not the Dems who make an issue of it.

    It is the anti-abortionists who want to deny women their rights who make an issue of this by trying to outlaw it or make it impossible for a woman to obtain an abortion.

    Dems are just standing up for the rights of women against those who would take them away from them.
     
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    Well, if Biden's intellect is your definition of 'genius'......whatever makes you happy.

    There's a long list of Biden snafu's, stupid comments that came out of the VP's mouth.... like the one advising women if they hear a noise outside, get their shotgun, step outside and start shooting into the darkness. The PD in his city had to contact him and tell him that's against the law. If Palin had advised citizens to do something so irresponsible and reckless that would put other people's lives in danger, the libs would never recover from that......and you know it.

    The old double standard is still thriving.........
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Heck, only one reason for an abortion. To kill babies. Every abortion results in one less human being allowed to live.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dems don't care about her baby.
     
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    Every sperm on the sheets/wall/ceiling is the result of one less human allowed to live.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Abortion kills a fetus. YOU can call it whatever you want but that doesn't change what it is.

    YES! Every abortion fulfills it purpose of one less human being ! GOOD! That's the intent.

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    There is no baby involved in abortion so there is no baby to care about......that's the point of abortion.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Already refuted but fails to address the point, we DO force our personal beliefs on other people for LOTS of VARIOUS reasons. There is no such set in stone inviolable human principle that we NEVER do. So it's an entirely specious argument as to why we should not oppose women killing their babies before they are born.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    No let's DO call it what it is and stop DENYING what it is as I have showed you over and over and over no only that it is proper use of the English language but as used by government, and medical sources including OBGYN clinics and neo-natal and pregnancy websites. You don't get to change the meaning of words nor their usage just to make your position more palatable went others debate it.

    Well if that is the intent there are lots of people on the earth we would do better without don't you think?

    Only when you have to engage in a denial of the meaning of and the proper use of the English language.

    From the American Heritage Dictionary

    ba·by (bābē)
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    n. pl. ba·bies
    1.
    a. A very young child; an infant.
    b. An unborn child; a fetus.

    From the government

    Health care for baby
    Right now, your OB or midwife is monitoring the health of your unborn baby.
    http://www.womenshealth.gov/pregnanc...care-baby.html

    From the NHS in the UK

    13, 14, 15, 16 weeks pregnant
    At 14 weeks, the baby is about 85mm long from head to bottom. If you have been feeling sick and tired, you will probably start to feel better when you are around 13 or 14 weeks pregnant
    http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnan...k-by-week.aspx

    How about OB/GYN's


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    I can go on forever...........

    It's a baby that is in there and gets killed in an abortion. Stop being absurd.
     
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    Chris Mathews, is a snarky POS that only satisfies uninformed and the most evil leftist.
    C.M. has done nothing more than expose the the simplistic so called educated and hateful view of his audience.
    Trump had the balls to go on this turds show and C.M. did the the obvious leftest snarky B.S. that the right has become accustomed to expect.
    This interview only created more support for Trump.
    The left needs to go back to the drawing board and regroup. It's up to the left to realize their tactics are old hat and played out to the point of ridiculousness. This may take some time as the left has devolved into needing the votes of the most needy and least intelligent to keep them in power.
    The leftest agenda, can only survive as long as long as they have a audience of brain dead entitled moochers that lack the ability to be happy with their place on this planet.
    Drive trough fly country and you will find many productive farmers that that help feed the masses of the entitled. Hard work makes people proud and humble.
    Give a fool, everything he wants and, you still have a fool.
     
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    Just because ALL your anti- abortion arguments fail you always have to fall back on what a fetus is called.

    It's a stupid position and doesn't change anything.
     
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    Actually they have all stood up because I don't have to engage in such denials and obfuscations as you. I merely use the correct words and grammar, YOU are the one who has to fall back on your fallacious denials of proper meanings and usage in order to deny the obvious and make your position more morally and ethically. acceptable not me.

    Lack of a rebuttal noted, grandiose statements especially specious ones refute nothing.
     
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    I'm a hardcore conservative, but also relatively pro choice.

    But, if i punch a pregnant woman in the stomach, and the 'fetus' dies, why would i be charged with murder?
     
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    Would the woman scream

    YOU HURT MY FETUS!!

    or

    YOU HURT MY BABY!!
     
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    Yeah I know. Pro choicers can never seem to provide an answer for this though (myself included)
     
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    Yes, the unborn is a baby. She only has the abortion to kill her baby. And you approve.

    I have seen women with the "fetus in her" sporting a pull over shirt with the words on it , baby onboard.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I do believe what you would be charged with exactly would vary from state to state....bear in mind that the UVVA law has a clause that exempts abortion.


    ..if you say you'd be charged with murder, I can accept that.

    because

    A. the woman did not consent to be punched in the stomach

    B. you took away her right to choose....(exactly like Anti-Choicers)

    C. it was an assault ( which is why it may not be charged as murder)





    What does it mean to be "relatively" Pro-Choice?
     
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    That's called "common usage" and does NOT turn a fetus into a Gerber baby look alike.

    You think when a woman says she has a bun in the oven she had sex with the Pillsbury Doughboy and will give birth to a sticky bun? Really??
     
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    Thanks for the explanation. Not sure if i agree though.

    'Relatively' means I'm not against abortions in the cases of rape, health risks of mother, etc. But I'm not down with abortion on demand
     
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    I don't believe you are stupid. I believe you know very well the woman only aborts babies.

    Even you were once in the oven and got called a bun. But you were not bread. You were a baby.
     
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    Then please learn why women choose to do this - it is not for frivolous reasons

    About 61% of abortions are obtained by women who have at least one child.[3]

    • Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).[3]

    • Twenty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes between 100 and 199% of the federal poverty level.*[3]

    • The reasons women give for having an abortion underscore their understanding of the responsibilities of parenthood and family life. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.[6]

    • Fifty-one percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method in the month they got pregnant, most commonly condoms (27%) or a hormonal method (17%).[7]


    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states
     
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    No women abort foetuses but most commonly they abort embryos since the vast majority of abortions occur in the first few weeks of pregnancy
     
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    Why have an abortion if all it amounts to is an embryo?

    What harm can one of those do to the woman?

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    One hundred percent of the children get killed off.

    She has no need of an abortion but to prevent her child birth.
     
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