How does Trump beat Clinton?

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  1. shaggydog

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    This clueless noob knows that Mexico will hurt if NAFTA was repealed. They would pay one way or another as far as I'm concerned. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-fletcher/thinking-the-unthinkable_b_522195.html
     
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    Her lead is shrinking slightly, but that doesn't change the fact that she is leading by the biggest margins she's had since September 2015.
     
  3. Reality

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    Did you even click your link? Cause she's been above 6.5 a number of times since then in RCP. She's been below it too.

    And thank you for acknowledging the point: Her lead is shrinking and was before Trump even clinched the nomination.
     
  4. LibChik

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    lol, you do realize that right now, Clinton's numbers are actually across the board better...in every major demographic... than the numbers Obama had when he won the last election. And he swept every swing state.

    trump is a pig who starts out with an automatic math problem given the country's demographics. Given that trump is a racist misogynist who has reels and reels of feed of him making those statements...its highly unlikely he's going to fix those problems.

    Add to trump's problem that he's got a major lawsuit coming up that he may have to testify for, for yet another con he committed against hardworking Americans to steal their money...and that real conservatives are not supporting his default nomination...and he has an even worse problem. He won't even keep republicans.

    Republican primaries are NOT general elections. trump's blue state scenario simply won't happen....Hillary will take those states easily and worse, she may end up having more play in red states than usual which will mean that trump will have to double down there and spend a lot of time there.

    trump will lose. It will be an ugly, messy, violent general election...because that's what trump brings America...division, violence, hatred and embarrassment...but when its over, this s**tstain will be on the heads of trump supporters. You can carry his pig s**t stench with you wherever you go.

    If a 3rd party conservative gets in the race with the help of the republican party....trump supporters, who are a minority in the republican party...can blame themselves for that too.

    Real conservatives are disgusted by trump the pig.
     
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    And her numbers are comparatively high overall. Here's a current overview of polls from Real Clear Politics.

    Poll Date Sample MoE Clinton (D)Trump (R) Spread

    RCP Average 4/11 - 5/1 -- -- 47.3 40.8 Clinton +6.5
    CNN/ORC 4/28 - 5/1 890 RV 3.5 54 41 Clinton +13
    Rasmussen Reports 4/27 - 4/28 1000 LV 3.0 39 41 Trump +2
    IBD/TIPP 4/22 - 4/28 814 RV 3.5 47 40 Clinton +7
    USA Today/Suffolk 4/20 - 4/24 1000 LV 3.0 50 39 Clinton +11
    GWU/Battleground 4/17 - 4/20 1000 LV 3.1 46 43 Clinton +3
    FOX News 4/11 - 4/13 1021 RV 3.0 48 41 Clinton +7
     
  6. JIMV

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    Something folk seem to forget is that Clinton has never, ever had to face real questions or an opponent who will fight back regardless of what her bought and paid for media says. Every time she has either 'had no recollection', flat lied, or squealed in horror 'sexist' while her media parrots the charge and her opponent flees the field. Trump will not run away from the fight so we really have no idea what will happen to her numbers when confronted.
     
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    Rasmussen is the same poll that had Romney winning the last election.

    The other problem is that trump is losing base republicans...they're defecting and, as per usual, trump the egomaniac moron is insulting them on their way out the door.

    I'm hoping they find a 3rd party conservative candidate which would give decent republican voters who've been disenfranchised by the trump con someone to vote for. Some of them were on tv today saying that they're actually going to vote for Hillary...which is shocking.

    Clinton is already going on the offensive and starting a wave of commercials in major states playing footage of what republicans have said about trump and playing some of his own disgusting comments. There is soooo much material to sink trump. We know his radical disciples will never hold him accountable and will support whatever he does or says...but they are a minority of a minority party. Most of America finds trump revolting.

    trump can try to pivot and start acting like a human being but I find it unlikely to happen because he's too stupid to change and too stupid to realize that politics, not just boorish, loudmouth slimetalk...is important to normal general election voters.

    General elections are not republican primaries...not even close. That's why the republicans have lost the last two elections. The demographics have changed and, more than ever, you cannot win without certain voting blocks. Voting blocks that trump has record bad numbers with.

    He can try to pivot...but aside from the majority of trump's extremist supporters...most Americans simply already find trump unfit in every way. The chances that he can turn into a decent human being or qualified for the Presidency is highly unlikely.
     
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    I think Hillary will have a major issue running against Trump as I think the Bernie supporters will rally around him once Bernie's out of the picture. Hillary has a lot of ghost in her closet and Trump will expose them all and will be in defense mode the entire race. The working class will elect Trump, Republican, Independence and Democrat alike. These polls will change.:applause:
     
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    Yes we've all seen months of trump insulting everyone and inciting violence.

    trump's crap is getting old. Even most republicans didn't want his crap. No one wants a country of racism and violence.
     
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    This is how it will go down...
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    I'm a Sanders supporter and have spent time with other Sander's supporters and its a pretty easy decision for them to vote for Hillary if trump is the nominee. You don't know what you're talking about.

    Having a pig like trump in the White House is simply not an option for Liberal Progressives. Sander's and his wife have already come out and said that and believe me, they will support Hillary in the end and will encourage all their supporters to vote against trump. The division and revolt that is happening in the republican party right now simply won't happen with Democrats.

    You can wish it all you want but its not the Democratic party that is falling apart. Our Presidents and nominees will be at the DNC convention.

    There is more of a likelihood that a 3rd party conservative candidate throws their name in to give decent conservatives a chance to vote for a human being instead of a pig.

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    More violence from a trump supporter. What a surprise.

    You do realize that that picture might be seen as a threat against a Presidential candidate right?
     
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    Lolz at lefty pearl clutching.
    Get used to it...
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    wasn't she ahead in Indiana until she lost?
     
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    I have to disagree...the dem elites are center left but the party activists are all Marx.
     
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    Chik: they're neck and neck now and he hasn't even started in on her yet.
     
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    that is wishful thinking...for it to be true his numbers and results would reflect it but they don't. Instead we have the same folk on the far left throwing the usual labels (racist, sexist, idiot, bigot etc) and the same folk in the GOP elites who lost us the last two Presidential elections prognosticating as though anyone in the base listens to them any longer.
     
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    lmao...they're not neck and neck.

    trump can't even handle getting votes from his own party right now.

    Hillary's numbers with women and minorities far exceed trump's.
     
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    And again, I ask, how long has it been since Donald Trump mowed his own lawn? How long has it been since Donald Trump shopped and bought his own groceries? How long has it been since Donald Trump has pumped his own gas, or taken his car to the mechanics? Hillary is probably the same way, but to say Donald Trump is a representative for the middle class is foolish.
     
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    You come across as being embarrassed. If I was an American I'd be embarrassed too.
     
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    Very true-and the few times Hillary has tried to hit Trump, its blown up on her.
     
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    Meanwhile, life in Australia.
    [video=youtube;rHUw5uDKAVg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHUw5uDKAVg[/video]
    and then there's this...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War
     
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    Not a trick question. Why do you support Trump?
     
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    Now,, post a video on redneck Americans. See the similarties?
     
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    I have written about this at length. If you'd like to know, you can review my posts.
     
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    Send me the links.
     

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