Scant Evidence That Clinton Had Malicious Intent

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  1. Frowning Loser

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    Once again we find out that Hillary Clinton has not commited a chargeable offense. As I have stated many times myself there is no hard evidence that Hillary Clinton had willful intentions to deliberately break classification rules and put the country in jeopardy. We are now in the wrap up stage of the investigation Nothing has been found in all these months to prove Hillary commited a crime or willfully violated rules. That's not going to change

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...277faa-12f0-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html

    The Washington Post

    "Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules, though they are still probing the case aggressively with an eye on interviewing Clinton herself, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

    FBI agents on the case have been joined by federal prosecutors from the same office that successfully prosecuted 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui — and who would handle any Edward Snowden case, should he ever return to the country, according to the U.S. officials familiar with the matter. And in recent weeks, prosecutors from the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Eastern District of Virginia and their FBI counterparts have been interviewing top Clinton aides as they seek to bring the case to a close

    The involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office is not indicative that charges are imminent or even likely. One official said prosecutors are wrestling with the question of whether Clinton intended to violate the rules, and so far, the evidence seemed to indicate she did not.

    U.S. officials also dismissed claims by a Romanian hacker now facing federal charges in Virginia that he was able to breach Clinton’s personal email server."
     
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    Never had a security clearance have you. Proper handling of info under your control is drilled into you and the consequences of misuse is quite severe, as it should be, especially for someone at her level of clearance. Malicious intent is irrelevant. People have done far less and but put in jail and fined heavily for just being negligent with classified documents/info.

    Hilary could shoot your mother right in front of you and you would find a way to blame you mom and still bow at Hilary's feet. Its actually quite pathetic.
     
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    All of Hilarity's defenders have been trying to make her crimes against national security and classified information all about whether she INTENDED to break the law. In two words, BULL (*)(*)(*)(*).

    The only questions should focus on this: did she commit the crimes or not?! It's no more complicated than that. And I can tell you this for a rock-solid fact (from the standpoint of having held two top-secret security clearances myself) -- if I had ever done anything like Hilarity is already well known to have done, NOBODY would have been mealy-mouthed about it and wondering if I had INTENDED to commit the breaches and infractions.

    No. They'd have stripped me of my "ticket", and I would have been court-martialed (in the case of the first TS security clearance), and I would have been fired from my job (in the case of my career with a Prime Contractor to the government), and then I would have faced charges, gone to trial, and either ended up in prison, or gotten a heavy fine, or BOTH. Absolutely NOBODY would give a damn about whether I had INTENDED to do anything wrong or not. What a preposterous bunch of horse (*)(*)(*)(*)....

    [​IMG]. "Dude, I didn't INTEND to start World War II... that was all a lie!"
     
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    The jokes on you. Her lack of malicious intent is the cornerstone reason she can't and won't be charged. This is almost over with. As the article states "Prosecutors and FBI agents investigating Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server have so far found scant evidence that the leading Democratic presidential candidate intended to break classification rules".

    Are you speaking from your own experience?? Is that what happened to your mom??
     
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    You're entitled to your opinion.
     
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    Who are these govt officials that have been charged absent intent? Alberto Gonzalez wasn't charged when he stored classified materials in his safe at his home.
     
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    But you're just a mere peasant. Hillary Clinton is royalty that is above all the laws that us peasants must obide by.

    You lefties and your defense of grandma is sickening.
     
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    My feeling is that if a Republican had done what Hillary has done with state secrets, that republican would be in jail by now..
     
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    They're dismissing the hacker's claims yet they indicted him and dragged his but all the way to this country?

    I'm calling BS.

    The only way this is remotely true is if this is how Obama set this up: Do everything possible to make it look like a long, exhaustive, thorough, expensive and legitimate investigation and then announce she didn't do anything wrong. Clinton has dirt on him and this is how he gets her to keep it locked up and out of sight.
     
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    That's bull **** of course. First of all intent is irrelevant
    when gross mishandling of classified documents and communications are concerned. You were already informed.

    Secondly, the very fact that she conducted all business, personal and State Department, on an unsecured non government provided server demonstrates
    a willingness to evade legal channels and an intent to break the law.
     
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    Well theu will come back with Bengahzi
     
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    Right you are! And you know what's really sickening to me, a right-wing fiscal Conservative? The ONLY completely honest and ethical person who has been in this race for months now is BERNIE SANDERS! Bless his heart... the poor man understands absolutely nothing about what a free-market economy consists of, but he's truthful, sincere, and he's got enough common sense to be able never to commit national security crimes of the kind that dumb-ass Hillary has....
     
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    Bernie said he wouldn't make an issue of Hillary Clinton's email chicanery.
    That's extra special stupid right there and for whatever misguided reason he screwed himself royally!
     
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    Bush jr is not and he authorized torture, sent a couple of thousands of soilderz to thier deaths about lieing abojt iraq. So your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is unfounded.
     
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    If you bring up Bush and what he did to protect America then you must include FDR and his incarceration of Japanese Americans, sending thousands of Americans to die in defense of the country and dropping the A bomb on japan (Truman) Both democrats.
     
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    The left is pretty excited about this new (unnamed?) source, but I would caution two things. First, without commenting on why I would speculate that she did it, the standard may be negligence and not malicious intent. Second, the MSM prefers democrats but they like sensationalism more than anything else. Quite often they say one thing so that they can be wrong later because this lets them act shocked.
     
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    I'm also calling BS on your BS this is just false FOCKs news or the heated daydreams of conservative bloggers.



    http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...-set-for-alleged-email-hacker-guccifer-221947

    A federal judge has set a September trial date for a Romanian man accused of hacking into the email accounts of politicallyconnected Americans, including a member of the Bush family, former Secretary of State Colin Powell and an informal adviser to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
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    Some observers have speculated that Lazar might have information about whether foreign intelligence agencies obtained access to Clinton's emails. However, there's no indication the alleged hacker ever breached Clinton's account. He did apparently obtain access to Blumenthal's account, leaking some of his exchanges with Clinton and prompting her to change her email address.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hacker-guccifer-i-got-inside-hillary-clinton-s-server-n568206


    Hacker 'Guccifer': I Got Inside Hillary Clinton's Server

    When pressed by NBC News, Lazar, 44, could provide no documentation to back up his claims, nor did he ever release anything online supporting his allegations, as he had frequently done with past hacks. The FBI's review of the Clinton server logs showed no sign of hacking, according to a source familiar with the case.
     
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    Nice, so you want us to believe the guy is confessing to crimes he didn't commit, where's the sanity in that? Keep in mind how this story keeps changing and as we find out more and more what Clinton did the left believes every ruse her adoring media throws out there.
     
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    You reallly are misreading the law on this. Intent might mitigate her sentence but not her guilt.

    Cheers
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    He's not just an indicted individual he's also a convicted one, for hacking and cyber crimes. That kind of the masters degree for the field isn't it?

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    Lol
    And you want us to believe that a sane rational person normally admits to crimes he either did or did not commit. You actually believe this guy is a stable average contributor to society .What you hate is that there is no definitive proof that he hacked Hillary's emails according to the FBI but there is proof that he hacked Blumenthal's emails because those were leaked.


    "Some observers have speculated that Lazar might have information about whether foreign intelligence agencies obtained access to Clinton's emails. However, there's no indication the alleged hacker ever breached Clinton's account. He did apparently obtain access to Blumenthal's account, leaking some of his exchanges with Clinton and prompting her to change her email address."

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...-set-for-alleged-email-hacker-guccifer-221947
     
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    John Kerry said his emails were probably hacked by the Russians and Chinese, but Clinton's bathroom server, never, not a chance of that happening.

    Keep in mind that Clinton denied ever sending or receiving secret emails and that has already been proven to be a lie. She lied about Blumenthal. And what I would really like her to explain is how, as Secretary of State, did she prevent others from SENDING HER classified emails. Hell, Obama was sending her emails.
     
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    Of course you are....republicans were ready to lock hwr up since day 1. Hell since the 90s lol

    - - - Updated - - -

    So using a state.gov email was no safer....perhaps less safe since everyone knew about it.
     
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    MG, why would I want her locked up when she's easier to beat than Sanders? I want her to run for president, not Sanders.
     
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    Oh look, it only took one post to pay homage to godwin. Good thing we have super sleuths like you and the other crackpot conspiracy theorists to keep the government honest. I mean, it's a real travesty that you didn't lead any of the other republican led, wastes of taxpayer money inquiries that found no fault.If you had, since you see through the BS, she'd be in prison by now. I mean, it's not like the testimonies of senior military officials mean anything to seekers of truth such as yourself.

    Does Trey Gowdy know you think it's BS? I'm sure he'd like you to appear before congress to share with the world how much BS you think is happening. Surely a statement from you would lead to an indictment!!!!
     
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