How does Trump beat Clinton?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Jim Nash, May 5, 2016.

  1. tecoyah

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    He does not....basically we already lost this election but are to ignorantly stubborn to admit it. Sad thing is we did it to ourselves and kept on saying how terrible HillBill would be the whole time we did it.
     
  2. Len

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    Jesus, you almost got every old, tired worn out talking post in one post!
    Nice work!
    Missed the welfare, unemployed, gun grabber, though maybe next time.

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    So, his only hope is to make the other person look worse than him?
    LMAO!!
    And you think thats a good plan?? You support a person that is that lame and that hated?
    What is wrong with you?

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    Ooooh you are getting good at the worthless talking points!
     
  3. Hey Nonny Mouse

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    How is not being politically correct going to be an advantage in winning over women, minorities and youth? Aren't these the very demographics where being PC is advantageous for a politician?
     
  4. JIMV

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    But that is exactly the plan the left relies on to drag their candidate over the finish line...
     
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    Political Correctness is simply leftist censorship of ideas the left cannot argue, so they make it impossible to discuss any weakness in a leftest program or candidate. Look at this thread...it is not about trump the candidate but Trump the PC heretic...how many posts attack trump under the label of racist or sexist...It's not PC to mention the illegal invasion or Clinton's awful record while the good lady wraps herself in her gender as proof against all criticism, to the praise of the far left.
     
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    It all depends on whether the undecideds watch the debates, because Trump can't be embarrassed about his weaknesses: corporate bankruptcies (perfectly legal and probably advisable from a business standpoint) or his slams against Muslim terrorists (does anyone support them?) and Mexican rapists (does anyone support them?), and they are IMO small potatoes compared to Hillary's character flaws, policy errors, paranoid personality, and eye-bulging shrieks about income inequality, which if she dares raise that, Trump will laugh out loud and with gusto:

    "Excuse me, Hillary, are you still flat broke? If you are, I can spare a dime. If you're not, then please stifle yourself."

    As for the already-decideds, is there any Trump or Hillary supporter here who can imagine changing their vote to the other based on the debates?
     
  7. Len

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    No actually it isn't.
    But I see you do think it is a viable plan for your guy.
    Don't you find that pathetic? Your pick for PRESIDENT, is so bad, so hated and so worthless the ONLY hope he has is to somehow tear down the other guy to his low level?
    My god man, why do you hate your country so much?

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    Political Correctness is simply rightest censorship of ideas the right cannot argue, so they make it impossible to discuss any weakness in a rightest program or candidate.
     
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    I am sorry but I am confused...is that not exactly what the dems are doing. Their candidate is a corrupt criminal with a casual disregard of the rule of law yet the left is working 24/7 to ignore those minor character flaws and have us instead remember that trump is not politically correct.
     
  9. Len

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    You have no evidence of any of that, but we DO have clear evidence that your boy is nothing but an outright liar and con man, guilty of fraud.
    Are YOU addressing those "character flaws" or are you simply lying to tear down the other guy?
    My guess is the later.

    Seriously, don't you find it pathetic that your choice is as bad as he is? That you have to out and out lie to make him look even just a tiny bit good?
     
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    Trump’s key to beating Hillary
    By Jonah Goldberg May 6, 2016 | 8:40pm

    By conventional rules, Donald Trump should lose to Hillary Clinton in a landslide. But if God were enforcing conventional rules, Trump would be brooding atop his midtown Manhattan aerie, wondering how he came in last behind James Gilmore.

    This has to terrify Clinton. She knows how to run against a normal Republican. Unfortunately for her, a normal Republican isn’t on the menu.

    How would Trump win? The same way he won the primaries: by selling a more entertaining story.

    About three years ago, the eponymous “Ace” from the legendary Ace of Spades HQ blog wrote a brilliant little essay on “The MacGuffinization of American politics.” “In a movie or book, ‘The MacGuffin’ is the thing the hero wants,” Ace writes. “Usually the villain wants it too, and their conflict over who will end up with The MacGuffin forms the basic spine of the story.”

    The Maltese Falcon in “The Maltese Falcon,” the Ark in “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” the daughter in “Taken”: These are all classic MacGuffins.

    Alfred Hitchcock apparently argued that it doesn’t really matter what the MacGuffin is, so long as the hero wants or needs it and it sounds important enough to justify the hero’s efforts. In “Mission Impossible 3,” we don’t even find out what the MacGuffin is, beyond being something very dangerous called “the Rabbit’s Foot.”

    Ace’s insight was that the mainstream media covers President Obama as if he were the hero in a movie (with Republicans as the villains, of course).

    Whatever Obama wants — ObamaCare, unconstitutional immigrant amnesty, the stimulus, a deal with Iran — isn’t important to a worshipful press corps. Whether policies are good or bad, lawful or unlawful, is kind of irrelevant. What matters is that the hero wants something.

    “Watching MSNBC’s Chris Matthews interview Obama,” Ace wrote, “I was struck by just how uninterested in policy questions Matthews (and his panel) were, and how almost every question seemed to be, at heart, about Obama’s emotional response to difficulties — not about policy itself, but about Obama’s Hero’s Journey in navigating the plot of President Obama: The Movie.”

    I think something similar has been at the root of Trump’s success. I can’t bring myself to call him a hero, but many people see him that way. Even his critics concede that he’s entertaining. I see him as being a bit like Rodney Dangerfield, constantly complaining he doesn’t get enough respect.

    Regardless, Trump bulldozed his way through the primaries in part because the nomination was his MacGuffin and people wanted to see the movie play out.

    Many voters, and nearly the entire press corps, got caught up in the story of Trump — much the same way the press became obsessed with the “mythic” story of Obama in 2008. People just wanted to see what happened next.

    In the film “Wag the Dog,” a Hollywood producer and a political fixer conspire to get the president re-elected by concocting a fake international crisis in which an American soldier is taken hostage. They agree that the American POW has to be returned after the election. Why? Because as Robert De Niro’s character explains, that’s the final act of the story. The president needs to win the election for the audience to see the end of the story.

    “Psychologically,” De Niro says, the voters “will understand that that’s the bargain. Make them pay for him . . . the price is their vote.”

    This could be terrible for Clinton. She began her campaign thinking she could stage a remake of The Obama Story the way they’re remaking “Ghostbusters”: same plot, only this time with women. It doesn’t work that way.

    Fair or not, the story of Hillary Clinton: First Woman President isn’t as exciting as Barack Obama: First Black President. And, more to the point, The Hillary Story is far less entertaining than The Trump Story.

    Clinton is boring. She’s as fun as changing shelf paper on a Saturday afternoon. Meanwhile, who wouldn’t want to see a sequel to “Back to School” in which the Rodney Dangerfield character becomes president?

    Everyone suspects they know what President Hillary Clinton: The Movie would look like. Trump: The Movie? That could be a wild ride.

    Clinton’s best bet is to tell voters it would be a horror movie so terrifying, no one will want to see it. I’m not buying tickets to either show come the fall. But I’ll be following the promotions closely.


    Another interesting take...
     
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    Let me see if I understand...your opinion about my candidate is fact while my opinion of your candidate (currently being investigated by the FBI) is in some odd way, false...what an amusing conceit
     
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    One minute you say R's will not get the black vote. Then next you say Democrats don't have the black vote in the bag and it's talking points. So which is it, are you in the bag and will never vote Republican or your not in the bag and may vote, even consider voting republican?
     
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    No you don't understand, very few fascist cons know the difference between fact and opinion.
    We know your boy trump is guilty of fraud, he is being sued for it and there is PLENTY of evidence of it.
    The woman that makes you wet the bed Hillary Clinton may or may not be guilty of something but there is NO evidence of it.
    See the difference?
    One is fact and one is opinion and a wet dream fed to you by your media, which has been lying to you for 20 years.

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    I've never said either of those things.
    Why must you cons always put words in other people mouths?
     
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    and if they don't like, they vote for Clinton is that it?
     
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    I asked you how attacking PC would be an advantage rather than a disadvantage for Trump in winning over the demographics he needs.

    You just ignored my question and talked about how you don't like PC. I get that you don't like PC, but the thread topic is how Trump can beat Clinton.
     
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    Like a redheaded stepchild
     
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    Long and the short of it is, you gotta dance with the lady that brung ya. If he starts acting all 'presidential', he's going to get blown out of the water.
     
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    Wow, you're slobbering over Hillary. I'll bet you'd like to do her lol

    And you ignored my question....

    One minute you say R's will not get the black vote. Then next you say Democrats don't have the black vote in the bag. So which is it, are you in the bag and will never vote Republican or you are not in the bag and may vote, even consider voting republican?
     
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    Romney lost because he wanted to be a gentleman and not point out the odious things Obama had done and was doing. Trump is not about to play that game. Instead of hiding behind anonymous campaign ads paid for by PACs, he will stand at the podium and tell the world just who Shrillary is and the corruption that surrounds her.

    A lot of Shrillary voters will stay home as will the Sanders supporters.
     
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    As you have entereled the realm of fantasy I need not take your silliness seriously.
     
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    I thought I was clear...Beating Clinton is easy as long as you do not play by her rules, blind adherence to political correctness. As long as Trump speaks loudly to Clinton's many, many flaws, he can and will beat the good lady.
     
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    nothing but social plans from the capitalist of the right?
     
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    Easy answer, watch the video above your post.
     

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