Zoo’s Killing of Gorilla Holding a Boy Prompts Outrage

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh my....you actually were.

    Okay....you are driving you truck carrying precious cargo down a road that is possibly dangerous. Do you imagine you would be paying very close attention or would you decide to text your buddy to plan game night?

    Regardless watching and protecting your own child is a bit more important and the "Cargo" was destroyed because you weren't watching the road.

    Imagine if you crashed the truck into a car and killed someones Baby....Are you OK with that?
     
  2. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, bearing that in mind, they made the right decision.

    I'm still sorry the gorilla died, but it was necessary to save the child
     
  3. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i required to have a commercial driving test to drive a big rig on the road
    but it didnt stop me from having 2 accidents and a speeding ticket..
    9 years of driving.
    18 years to raise

    a kid,as a parent thats a LOOOOOOOOG frecken time to NOT make a few mistakes..
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I understand that. In fact I thought about that a little while after my post

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    yeah he was in the water.
     
  5. willburroughs

    willburroughs Well-Known Member

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    Are you trying to say that her losing sight of her kid in that environment excuses her from being a bad parent? I am going to repeat: I get it that you cannot possibly have your eyes on your kid every second of every day. people who claim that are not being truthful. However, there are environments that you do not lose sight/control of your kid, and in my opinion, a crowded zoo qualifies as a place where my toddler is not leaving my sight or side. If my kid is completely out of control, I would not take him/her to that locale.

    This woman was at fault for that incident. I sincerely cannot believe anybody is arguing otherwise.
     
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  6. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no but stuff uncontrollable does happen say a BIG freacken [​IMG] bee wasp gets into my truck cab and lands on my forehead or hand i got to knock it off me it and i swerved the trailer in another lane and kill the family on the road tell me how do i avoid that?
     
  7. daisydotell

    daisydotell Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the speeding ticket was your choice and the accidents were your fault I wouldn't call it a mistake, premeditated bad choices.

    I have two sons and when they were small I knew bad behavior and I knew when to remove them from a situation that could be dangerous. It is the parents responsibility to teach their children good behavior. Yes ,18 years is a long time, but it gets longer if you have an unruly child.
     
  8. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i can and will argue that till the moon turns blue, its a chaotic random world we live in uncontrollable circumstances are intervening on us all the time, i cant believe you think your in that control?
     
  9. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Easy to say. How many kids have you raised? I had two, and they are and were pretty obedient, but at that age, they could and did get free, despite our best efforts. Three-four year old active boys are hard to control.

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    Figures. You would be a misanthrope. Unless that's your real name, your name would explain your views.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it was my fault and then it wasn't my fault.. random acts played into factor the speed sign was cover by a tree branch with leaves that grow durring the summer and was hard to see by me, it was windy ~~ also and the wind!~~~ was blowing the branch across the sign at the time.so was the mother really at fault ? NO! and yes now figure what percentage she was at fault higher or lower..
     
  11. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I agree 100% with you. I asked the question of a few people, and got too disgusted.
     
  12. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is obvious you have no intention of rational debate on this topic so I bid you good day.

    That said....You probably should not have had the window open in giant bee wasp territory while trucking that precious cargo....but hey, that's just my opinion.
     
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  13. perdidochas

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    I agree 100%. I have two boys (now 16 and 17). That 3-5 year old stage was rough. They didn't quite understand consequences, and they could run and dart fast.
     
  14. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    analogys from me work they penetrate the EGO very well of others, i am good with them..
     
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    You must not have ever raised active 4 year olds. My youngest son at that age once managed to wriggle free of my wife holding his hand, and ran through a crowd to assault Snow White at Disney (by assault, I mean he hugged her leg). Nothing my wife could have done could have stopped it. Yes, Snow wasn't a 400 lb silverback gorilla, but the point stands. Accidents happen, this wasn't necessarily bad parenting (not saying it was good parenting either). Not all of us are as perfect as you.
     
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    There is no excuse for bad parenting, parenting is a 24/7 job. She had already told the child no, (according to a spectator) that should have been an alert to watch him closer or remove him from the area. She did neither.
     
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    Fair enough. You're right, I don't have kids.

    But juror 13 (me) puts the blame here on her, 100%
     
  18. trucker

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    now as your kid was running to snowwhite some clowns where say peddling a bike [​IMG] inbeween the child and snow white and the clowns emplooyes where happening to be looking the other way and struck your child hard and put the kid in the hospital, you would of never forgave your self and that would be wrong.
     
  19. trucker

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    yeah the evil bad #13 number i got it LOL
     
  20. trucker

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    so it that 24 clock hours of time are you keeping one eye open when sleeping? if so that is really trippy metallica stuff ..
    video time 1:38 [video=youtube;g0l8WDNrG74]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0l8WDNrG74[/video]
     
  21. willburroughs

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    So nobody has any control over anything? Simply a bizarre and convenient rationale.

    This woman had an opportunity to have control of this specific situation, and she failed. If I take my kid to the zoo, I might not have control over a undocumented meteorite striking him on the head, but I due have control over whether or not he jumps into the gorilla cage.

    This was NOT uncontrollable circumstances. This was her not paying due diligence to what should be her primary task.
     
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    I have 2 kids. I took them to multiple zoos (big zoos), aquariums, and a lot of other similar experiences. I just never lost control of them to this extent. And if one of my kids was hyper/ADD to the point of not being able to be controlled in these environments, I would not have taken them, or at the least, would have taken them individually so I could maintain the control.
     
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    Not a misanthrope by any means.
     
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    i have study tao for a year like a zen master [​IMG] or so and come to the conclusion life is like you can build a hill cage and sit on it in a zoo/ forest, you think you can control it all, but in reality its still a forest full of gorillas..
     
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    And not everybody is so irresponsible that they take kids into that environment and lose control of them.
     

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