Interns Get Fired En Masse After Protesting Dress Code at Work

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  1. Stuart Wolfe

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    Hmm, let's say that they spent work time putting together their petition, or basically did any of these hijinks while on the clock, then they could be fired in such a way that it wouldn't violate the rules. Reading between the lines on the OP indicates that did happen.

    I also doubt that the NLRB would take up their cause considering all the other factors I've gone into in my other posts.
     
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    The good news is that the ex-interns are actually saving money since they don't have to pay to go to work where they weren't getting paid. They need to picket the place and broadcast what a crappy place it is.
     
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    They got an educational experience alright.

    More than one of them was already told no, by more than one manager. They then proceeded to try and form some kind of mob to force managements hand. They were successful at this, but not in the way they hoped.

    Abuse, like child slave labor? If I were you I'd think long and hard on that analogy, because I'd say your thought process puts you in danger in the real world as well.

    Bottom line is it's perfectly acceptable to ask for a change to policy as an intern (not real smart but that's beside the point), but when you are continually told "no", then waste company resources attempting some kind of mass protest....you're going to get fired, and for good reason.
     
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    It's a dress code, may as well require people to say "sir" and "ma'am". It seems to me that given the option between addressing non-job related policy questions or just firing them all, the first option is the best. They just lost any potential employees from that group and likely anyone they talk to because apparently clothing is more important that talent. That's fine, they can do what they want, but I'd say the tech world has shown that you really don't need to dress up to do a job.

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    It's a dress code, may as well require people to say "sir" and "ma'am". It seems to me that given the option between addressing non-job related policy questions or just firing them all, the first option is the best. They just lost any potential employees from that group and likely anyone they talk to because apparently clothing is more important that talent. That's fine, they can do what they want, but I'd say the tech world has shown that you really don't need to dress up to do a job.
     
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    Concerted activity applies under any circumstances just as the Weingarten Act applies whether you are union or non-union. I went to labor school and took courses in labor law, etc. I'm not an expert, but that's how I learned about labor law in general.

    Companies of course don't make it a habit to inform employees of their rights for obvious reasons and the interns would be easily intimidated by the company managers/HR people.
     
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    I did a quick search, let me emphasize quick, and weingarten doesn't seem to apply to things non union. I've been through tons and tons of courses on weingarten, but none of it ever covered this particular situation. Maybe it doesn't?
     
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    I think if the petition was done on company time, then it's quite possible the terminations were legal. However if they did them during their lunch breaks or even coffee breaks or even if they were on company property or off property during their breaks or off time, then I am of the opinion they would have a case.

    The NLRB has an obligation to investigate any charge filed either by an employee against the company or any charge filed by the company against an labor organization. Whether they issue a complaint or not is based on a number of factors.
     
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    Unless the rules have been changed since I took the courses in labor law (and that is quite possible) it applied to non-union employees as well but what i'll do is make a phone call to my labor attorney friend and get an opinion from him and a source if possible and post it here.
     
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    Sounds like a plan but I believe we have a member here who is a union rep, maybe he'll chime in.
     
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    of course, they were just interns, it was a opportunity for them, they should of just did what they were told, it was a resume builder

    that said, very few corps that do not deal with the customers directly still force their employees to wear suits, most are business casual

    I would guess many real employees were grumbling too, this sent a message to them as well as the interns, the interns were just collateral damage

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    They will be when the old fogies die off.
     
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    Lets see they see one person ,who due the ADA is entitled to proper accommodations and was an employee, with not company acceptable shoes and go all ape-(*)(*)(*)(*) seems to me they were big babies deserving to be fired.
     
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    The old guard that favours tradition and their way of life is dying off. Soon it will be our world and we will get to make the rules and dress code.
     
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    Bernie Sanders still wears a suit, but I see combing your hair in the new progressive world is optional.
     
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    And in this new world interns will also get paid for the work they do. Progressive eh?
     
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    I imagine there are a lot of kids that would be willing to abide by a dress code to have those jobs. I think it is quite funny they got the boot. Pushy little (*)(*)(*)(*)s.
     
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    Welcome to the real world kids. Dress codes are generally stupid, as is the idea that you dressing nice actually means anything other than you bought some nice clothes. But that's the way the world works. Better learn.
     
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    I'm sure you're right but first things first. Graduate from grade school, then H.S., some college and then move out of mom's house.
     
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    What are you going to do? Take over the world with half-shaved heads, or dreadlocks; in flannel shirts, and tight pants? It is the old guard who gave you the luxury of talking on cell phones, and using your ipods; spending hours saying nothing on facebook, playing on your computers, watching plasma screen TV's, and driving your little hybrid cars. The man who invented AC power, Nikola Tesla, wore black, formal suits everyday of his life, even when he was experimenting with ball lightning. That "old guard" that wore suites to work provided you with the luxury of flipping a switch to turn the lights on. You are the old guard in my opinion. You have contributed nothing so far to the evolution of this civilization. Your generation is the most spoiled, yet arrogant generation in the history of the world, IMO.
     
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    Well from what I know from being an adult, you don't walk into an internship and start making demands. These "kids" , or rather children based on their actions, ASKED the company for an internship and were gracefully granted one.

    Now, come hire me under you and star making my demands right away without even proving my worth first or putting in time, lets see how long you will want to keep me on your payroll .

    It'snot about clothes, it's about the action.
     

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