Interns Get Fired En Masse After Protesting Dress Code at Work

No. I said you were trolling, I didn't say you were a troll. There's a difference.

Unless you can somehow explain how saying that "people dealing with urine samples are either the nurses asking for or receiving them, the medical lab technician running the actual sample thru the analyzer, and the medical supply staff assigned to keeping the hospital facility stocked", and that "In all three cases the jobs are in the medical field." is not realistic.

In what way are those statements NOT realistic?

 

They're not controlling you, they're asking you to dress respectfully. Businesses put a lot on reputation and appearances. They don't want to hire some bum out of nowhere. A dress code is NOT the end of the world.

 

Although the points you are making in here are good ones, they ignore the obvious differential between the power of the corporation and the power of the student interns.
This is the very exact reason many fatherless children in the US are growing up without a respect for authority--they have no understanding of the word "No", or that there are limits. Paternal authority in a two-parent family usually is enough to teach this.

We have our colleges and universities crawling with ideological Marxists right now trying to tip this society over into a socialistic state devoid of overt authority, but leading toward dictatorship of the many by the few. They are twisting the ideals of democracy into the means of making domestic industry ineffectual in order to drain our country of its life's blood by sending our industry abroad. Cooperate with it and you may live to see our country truly become a third world one. England belatedly saw the problem and is now trying to reverse it, and it is time we do as well.

It's time to put our collective feet down and stop rewarding illegitimate births with cash payments. We cannot afford to have so many ineffectual, time wasting, authority-questioning people loading up our society. Our youth need to understand that when they make a commitment, they are committed, and pay attention to the task at hand...or learn how to do so. This is an essential prequel to attempting to change a system for the better after taking the time to earn one's place among productive members of an organization.

 

I re-read the link and all I could see was "I was able to get a summer internship at a company that does work in the industry I want to work in after I graduate." I guess that implies it was a paid internship and not a summer class - but there's quite a bit of room for doubt there. Not enough information to go on either way.

 

I hope their understanding of federal labor law is as poor as yours so that this story can result in even more hilarity than it already has.

 

Telling someone they must dress in such a fashion is most certainly a control, and why I'd never work there. I think we can all agree to some general rules like you have to wear clothes and don't dress provocatively, but suit and tie for back office is a bit much.

 

Nowadays, a lot of companies are paying their interns, due to what I understand was a lawsuit filed against NBCU and won by a group of interns a few years back. Under the FLSA (Fair Wages and Standards Act) If the intern is unpaid, then they cannot replace employees or do functions normally done by employees as unpaid interns. However if they are doing work not normally done by an employee or being "mentored", they do not have to be paid.

I've posted links involving two major lawsuits, the NBCU interns and Viacom Interns to help clarify and answer any questions that might come up.

http://deadline.com/2015/06/nbcuniv...nt-saturday-night-live-black-swan-1201437244/

http://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...om-settles-intern-lawsuit-20150312-story.html

 

It has nothing to do with being a spoiled brat, which is an absurd argument, it has to do with questioning a questionable policy. They wanted to work there, they simply wanted a what was to them a better working environment. The company refused. That's fine. Their loss since something as small as an uptight dress code is more important than talent.

 

No idea why you think the bold. Outsourcing has been going on since before these interns were even born. I'm also not sure how not respecting authority leads to authoritarianism, perhaps other than that authoritarians feel the need to crack down further on people who simply wish to live their lives in a way the authoritarians simply don't agree with.

 

You can post all the links you want, the rights of employers to impose reasonable, nondiscriminatory dress codes, and of employers to terminate employees for violating or "organizing" to violate or even protest those dress codes are -not- subject to protection of the NLRA.

If there were a preexisting union of employees, dress codes could be -part- of negotiating a larger collective bargaining agreement, but that is -not- the case here.

 

The juice isn't worth the squeeze. It's one thing to have an informal conversation With your boss about a policy. It's another thing to draft a formal letter to you boss. You get a formal response for a formal petition. If, as an intern, you are pulling this sort of thing, a boss is going to think you are nothing but trouble. Better to hire someone you don't have to baby sit

 

The last sentence says it all......if they had known about the soldier, they would 'have factored it into their argument'.....argument. Those children were flat out fired and hadn't learned a damn thing. It was all about their entitlement, what they want....

Live and learn, kids......

 

Talent is worthless when it's misguided. A person can have all the talent in the world, but that does not mean they will produce.

Do you think the Bulls would have kept Michael Jordan if he came in and played the game the way he wanted too, rather than stick within the rules? You think Lebron James would be where he is at if he was more worried about his uniform rather than playing basketball?

Ill take the intern that wants to learn the business, rather than the intern who's first priority is what he or she wants to wear at work. Simple common sense. I hired you on to be a productive employee, not to come in and be our personal SJW.

 

Because the interns were not hired on to change any of the company's rules, regulations, policies?

When you're hired on, you sign a contract agreeing to the above - not thinking you have the right to change anything and can get by w/it.

 

Ok this is just getting ridiculous now. We're just saying the same thing over and over again. We're not getting anywhere on this. We need to do something better then this. Want to discuss an idea?

 

And a company like that wouldn't have you....as these interns quickly found out themselves.

 

Boomers just got a dose of reality.

 

Nothing is getting done if keep talking like this. I get that managment has its own agenda, it has its own needs. Management needs to do something in order to project itself as a company. That being said out of all the tools in its arsenal it decided to fire them. It's hard to believe that was a justified response. But we're just arguing in circles now. Want to do something different like discuss an idea?

 

I love how you went from this is a sign of declining morals to why we need to stop welfare. I don't know where you saw that connection but good for you.

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No one was saying that. What they were saying was that they went to the people they thought would be best to talk to about this and were fired for it. Simple as that.

 

Something progressive professors leave out of their "teachings" .

 

Interns are usually slave labor. If they get paid it might be just a dollar a week.

 

Why were the interns hired? Out of the goodness of the employer's heart? I highly doubt it. Clearly the employer is looking to find future talent and probably wants productivity out of its interns. I think that any company that isn't willing to listen to feedback from its interns lacks the ability to evolve and will eventually be overtaken by companies that are able to evolve. That doesn't mean that the company should do what the interns request. Yes, the interns are only 20 or so, but that doesn't mean that their opinions are worthless and they don't bring new skills or ideas to improve the company.

 

Internships usually don't have equal protection from workers rights laws. Many internships do not offer a salary. Since these jobs are considered a form of professional training its likely the careers are considered contracted workers. Depending on what state you live in you may not have workers rights even after you land a 'real' job.

Hmmm wait a minute... Was there new regulation signed into federal law recently?? If so they may have more rights than I'm thinking.

 

It's not ridiculous.

If someone comes to work for me and they have a great attitude and mediocre skills, I can teach the skill.

If someone comes to work for me and they have a bad attitude and great skills, I cannot teach them to have a better attitude.

This is when it comes to entry employees of course. More skilled employees that are hard to replace can enjoy a little more prima donna in their attitude.

An intern though? If mommy and daddy didn't teach them to show up on time, understand before demand, and to act like a functional human being....I don't have the time for that and no one else does either.

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Yeah it's more like getting kicked out of class than it is fired.

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They can quit anytime they want.

Calling them slaves is an incredible insult to the history of slavery.

 

I was not talking about "declining morals". Very simplistic way of ignoring what is being said.

You fail to see the connection between learning respect for paternal authority and understanding respect for authority in general.

Rewarding illegitimacy with welfare payments simply leads to more illegitimacy. Girls on the street having trouble at home are being advised by friends to get pregnant so they can get their own check and own apartment.

You get more of what you pay for. We have been paying girls to have illegitimate babies that will grow up without paternal involvement, and, therefore, that will lack respect for authority. Fathers set limits and teach respect for authority better than most mothers. The reason is obvious--most men, at least in Western society, have less tolerance for childish behavior.

It's been discussed on here more than once.