America's sexual deviation & decadence over the line

Wherever I said "mental illness" I misspoke. I meant to say "mental disorder".

I'm sure they probably did as well. The point being, not all agreed that it should be changed. This is another point on which we agree.

It means you are forwarding an argument that I am not making as if I am making that argument.

YIKES! If ever there was anything said that proves that the left and democrats have abandoned blacks and take their votes for granted...that statement sure as heck kicks them to the curb.

Yeah, and just as in the case of blacks, the liberal agenda has gone so far to the left that they are pandering to a minority within a minority at the expense of everyone who has ever been a child. What kind of sense does that make?

Which is one of the silly things stupid liberals say to justify their deviancy. As humans, we are supposed to be a step up on the evolutionary ladder.

 

Having worked almost my entire life in psychology....explain to me the difference between mental illness and mental disorder.....this is hilarious

 

I think that you would know better than me since you have spent your entire life in psychology. You mean to tell us that after all that time in the field you don't know?

 

No I don't know. And I am an expert in my field of psychology with over 25 years of experience. Explain it to me. LOL

 

Then we are discussing two different topics. Let us know when you can finally land on which lies you are propagating so we can destroy them with research - so you can then dismiss every one as biased while providing no refuting evidence

Many people would still like to see homosexuality classified as a mental illness, probably the same number that would like to see the activity re-criminalized.

... Which does not apply in the context you used it in.

I am not a liberal, I have not voted democrat in any election cycle. Blacks are demanding special rights and privileges - the groups you are seemingly against only want to be treated with dignity as any other citizen.

We are, except bigots
You cannot say something is unnatural if it is naturally occurring
Your sense of decency is entirely subjective, you find it morally reprehensible for there to be a cartoon fish that swaps it's gender (just like that found in nature), I find it morally reprehensible for bigots to be allowed to indoctrinate children and sway scientific process.

 

You are still ignoring my key points and focusing on the specifics of the example I used. That shows that you are either unwilling or unable to address my arguments.

Again, speculation - strawman argument - ad hominum attack. I never made this comparison.

The difference here is that the surveys I mentioned actually exist.

If you are interested in the specifics of the poll, here is the pdf link: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_MS_0407915.pdf

PPP is considered to be one the most highly accurate opinion polling companies in the US, estimated most reliably by the margin of error they presented during the 2012 election. (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...s-ppp-kos-the-most-accurate-pollsters-in-2012)

The Pew Research Center has an even better reputation. It is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that generally uses the best possible practices. l have yet to encounter any academic critisism of their accuracy. However, if you are in doubt, I urge you to read the methodology statement in their website and inform me on whether you find any of their methods to be unreliable or unscientific. They also make their data available to the public for secondary analysis, if you are interested.

As for California, again, you have no proof of what you're suggesting. All polls conducted in the state after 2009 suggest that the majority of residents support gay marriage. This includes roughly twenty seperate polls conducted by different organizations. Where is your evidence that they are all unreliable?

Do you have any justification for anything that you're saying? Are there any facts to support your allegations whatsoever? Your arguments are unsubstantiated and have no factual basis, therefore they cannot be taken seriously from a rational perceptive.

 

Definition of a strawman argument: An informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.

If cd8ed accused you of claiming homosexuality was a mental ilness while you did not, that would be a strawman argument. But he didn't, he only responded to your own proclaimed position. Even if you "mispoke", he was still not guilty of a strawman argument. He also had no way of knowing that you consider the words 'mental illness' and 'mental disorder' to have a different meaning, since you never indicated it during the rest of your conversation and since these terms are commonly used interchangeably.

Therefore yes, you do not appear to know what the word means.

 

Nobody really knows what causes homosexuality.

 

Well if you say there is no difference then I'll take your word for it.

 

You better....because as usual you don't know what you are talking about. Lol

 

I guess there is no difference. I was corrected already. Feel free to destroy away. That doesn't change the fact that it was changed by the APA as a result of a 60/40 vote.

Well that is one assumption you can make for what it's worth.

It does if I say it does.

No, I think they want more than that. Blacks deserve to have the civil rights denied them for so many decades. Transsexuals want special rights.

I agree. Bigots are bad. But I can say something is unnatural even if it occurs in nature. Like for instance, cannibalism.
Of course my sense of decency is subjective, but morality is not. Morality is not subject to popular opinion.
That's what I'm on about too. I hate it when bigots indoctrinate children in their religion of liberalism which is anti-science.

 

The reason for the change was prevailing evidence

An educated hypothesis

Words have meaning

So have homosexuals, so have transexuals, so did the Japanease and the Irish.

They want quotas in place, lowered educational requirements, many call for reparations. No other group demands this like black people - which group of people is offended by the phrase "all lives matter"? It isn't transexuals.

What special rights are LGBT people demanding? The right to purchase goods available to the public?

Cannibalism is natural, it is seen in thousands of species as well as humans.

Morality is absolutely subjective. Acknowledging a group of non-violent people exist in a cartoon is not immoral.

 

Really productive post. I think you just revolutionised the discourse surrounding sexual relations.

Goshdarn puritans.

 

You quote the book of Psalms from the Bible, and claim that morality is "absolutely subjective"? Is that what the Bible says?
"If it feels good, do it."
"Rape isn't evil so long as I subjectively support it."
Child molestation, murder, treason, mayhem all subjectively moral?
Islamic terrorists tend to agree with you. They can justify any evils committed so long as they scream allahu akhbar when they do the evils.

 

No, it was because the 60% won out over the 40%. The evidence had nothing to do with it.

That's just the stupid democrats. If anything, blacks should vote for republicans who will give them more funds for a better education, not lower standards. We can divert all the moneys that democrats dedicate to GBLT groups and give it to educate blacks. And blacks should be given reparations, by the democrat party. The democrat party unapologetically supported slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, lynchings, and the KKK. They have never apologized for that.

They want the government to pay for their reassignment surgeries. They want to be in the military. They want accommodations in every aspect of life. Sorry, people don't always feel comfortable around weirdos.

So now I guess you want special accommodations for cannibals as well? I guess we need to make some laws to allow people to eat other people because it is perfectly natural? You're not a fan of Jeffery Dahmer are you?

I guess it is in your house if you find cannibalism acceptable behavior.

P.S. Not coming to dinner any time soon.

 

Morality is absolutely subjective.
Would you like for me to remove what you believe to be the word of God from my signature?
Tell me, does the bible mention anything about pushing people away from the word, and the punishments of such?

 

So you feel that 60% just changed their view "because pc" in less than three years and not because the classification failed scrutiny. You're not that intellectually dishonest. I hope

No group should be given reparations. I agree that from an economic standpoint all groups should vote for Republicans over Democrats, unfortunately the hateful rhetoric allows the democrat version of "acceptance" flourish. If republicans ever drop all their social wars the democrats will cease to exist in its current form.

Being in the military is a special accommodation? If you would have said lower testing standards (like blacks have demanded) I would agree but simply being in the military is not.

This is an example of a strawman, a concept that you have accused others of doing but are instead doing yourself.

Another stawman

I'm a good cook, you'd be surprised what pairs well with fava beans and a nice chianti

 

Ah yes, the 10 Commandments and the Golden Rule are subject to YOUR wisdom and interpretation.

What pride you demonstrate, and you know what the Book says about pride. But wait, that must also be "absolutely subjective."

I don't think you should be a hypocrite, by claiming nonsense things like the "subjectivity of morality." That's what atheists claim, and they think themselves the most sanctimonious and virtuous of humans. On what basis? Their "subjective" basis, of course.

You are defending homosexuality, and you want to lecture me on the Bible, which you obviously don't know how to spell?
Read up about Sodom and Gomorrah. Then read about the number of people who have contracted AIDS from homosexuals, both accidentally and intentionally. Then study the violence of homosexuals, generally on each other. Grisly facts, those.

 

Nope, sorry, I don't care in the slightest about your "Ten Commandments"

yawn

The bible is a book, I have quoted moves before and I know they are fiction.
I did note, however, that you failed to answer the question mr biblical scholar.

Ok, again - don't care about fictional events. Using them to make a point? Sad. I agree that AIDS and domestic violence is an issue in the gay community but it is being primarily limited to blacks - so, I care less and less about that issue also...

 

Alas, some folks are deluded. There is no convincing them of reality, sadly. No matter what proof is offered it will never convince the deluded.

 

That's some rather poor logic. Also most people in the world that have aids are heterosexual. Is heterosexuality immoral in Africa and India? By your logic it is.

 

Spoken like a colorful homosexual, with pretty rainbow colors on your signature.

First, America has enough problems here at home, without your getting all sweaty about Africans.
Moreover, AIDS patient #1 was a homosexual flight attendant. Homosexual promiscuity is well documented. I read that a large percentage of homosexual men have had more than 500 partners. So of course they can contract their fatal disease, be "protected" under the claim of "privacy," and spread it to women ignorant of their condition.

Then there are homosexual "bug chasers" who work to get infected, so they can spread it around more.
One sick dentist injected his own saliva into his patients, ultimately killing them.

Jeffrey Dahmer - homosexual mass murderer
Randy Kraft - homosexual mass murderer
Juan Corona - homosexual mass murderer
Andrew Cunanan - homosexual mass murderer
John Wayne Gacey - homosexual mass murderer

Child molestation and pedophilia occur far more commonly among homosexuals than among heterosexuals on a per capita basis, according to a new study.
“Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture,” wrote Steve Baldwin in, “Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement,” soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review.
Baldwin is the executive director of the Council for National Policy in Washington, D.C.
“It is difficult to convey the dark side of the homosexual culture without appearing harsh,” wrote Baldwin. “However, it is time to acknowledge that homosexual behavior threatens the foundation of Western civilization – the nuclear family.”
Though the homosexual community and much of the media scoff at such accusations, Baldwin – who chaired the California Assembly’s Education committee, where he fought against support for the homosexual agenda in the state’s public schools – says in his report that homosexual activists’ “efforts to target children both for their own sexual pleasure and to enlarge the homosexual movement” constitute an “unmistakable” attack on “the family unit.”
Baldwin’s research is substantiated in a recently completed body of work written by Dr. Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education and author of numerous authoritative books debunking sexual myths, including “Kinsey, Crimes & Consequences.”
In her thesis – also written for the Regent University Law Review – Reisman cited psychologist Eugene Abel, whose research found that homosexuals “sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is occurring from five times greater than the molestation of girls. …”
Abel also found that non-incarcerated “child molesters admitted from 23.4 to 281.7 acts per offender … whose targets were males.”
“The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering,” said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child pornography and violence. “Abel’s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls.”

It is telling that liberals unfailingly defend homosexuality, and in the same breath, mockingly accuse conservatives they detest as homosexuals. So it's good to be a *gay* liberal, but horrific to be a *gay* conservative. The liberal double standard - always in play.

 

Wow, i didn't say we should deal with Africa's or India's problems. You said the prevalence of the disease indicates that homosexuality is deviance. I was simply applying your same logic. World wide most people that have aids are heterosexual, so heterosexuality by your logic is deviant. I'm just applying your logic to a greater population.

And the child molestation crap was just propaganda from the sixties to try and justify the prejudice.

It has been proven several times that homosexuals don't have a higher tendencyto be child molesters. Baldwin is going to be discredited if he isn't already.



Btw , i am a conservative,

 

I love your funny one liners.