America's sexual deviation & decadence over the line

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It's true. You think libertarians aren't conservative?
     
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    Regardless of what you or I think about "the normal way humans are supposed to be", it is important to understand that norms are composed on a continuum, not a binary or linear step graph. Human and even animal sexuality has never been binary.
    Consider the clover. Most clovers have three leaves but there are rare instances of four leaf clovers.
    The number of four leaf clovers has never ramped up to take over the species, nor does the presence of four leaf clovers present any risk or harm to standard three leaf varieties.
    Thus while four leaf clovers are indeed a deviation from the norm, they are a STANDARD deviation.
    The human race continues to exist NOT because homosexuality is repressed, not because heterosexuals have been saved from some imaginary "gay virus" which would supposedly threaten the continued survival. Homosexuality is a standard deviation from the norm with a rather easily predictable and stable numerical presence in all mammalian species.

    Thus there is nothing society can do that would "accidentally" trigger a massive wave of conversion to homosexual behavior, just as there is also nothing society can do to "prevent" such an imaginary event, because such events will never happen.
    The human race will simply continue as before, with the same percentage of heterosexuals producing the same percentage of gay children now, and into eternity.
    Awareness does not trigger causation of a predetermined genetic trait, it simply encourages acceptance. We are a mammalian species with a tiny handful of members who are a standard deviation from the norm, and that subset of our species will never do harm to the genetic security of the human race because the genetics are predetermined by Nature, not by man.
     
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    Sure it can. Children are very impressionable.
     
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    Then let us impress upon them the importance of tolerance and acceptance.
     
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    How many do you have?
     
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    Neither did the subset of our species represented by Hitler, Mao, Stalin and their supporters, so what the hell's your point?
     
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    The conduct of those people was not determined by genetics. If you choose to cling to some fairy tale that equates homosexuality with politics or learned behavior, that's your choice but it is not scientifically valid.
    I'll leave you to argue with tens of millions of years of Nature.
     
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    Disney is a business and gay people are only 3% of the population. You can tell from the likes of the OP how well it would blow over.

    I think gay people have come as far as they can go as to people feeling sorry for them.

    The louder they are going forward is going to cost them support with the fence sitters who don't care, either way.

    Now that the democrats have lost the workers, the next largest demographic they have to count on are African Americans, sitting at around 20%.

    So far, liberals seem to be really slow to catch onto trends, and impossibly stubborn when it comes to adapting.

    But there is always going to be a demographic that consists of 30 years worth of "college educated" citizens who were programmed at the height of neoliberal power. A huge chunk aren't going to disappear overnight.

    My question is what do you think would be the benchmark event that would actually make all the other liberals turn on the gays as soon as they became more of liability than an asset? Unless someone is trying to hurt them, I think we've all been saturated with guilt to the point of indifference.

    Most consider it deviance. Just because they don't care if they get married doesn't mean they want it being taught to their kids as normal.
     
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    Yes, the US has changed a lot over time.

    No doubt will just keep heading in an anything goes direction when it comes to sex. I had read that Tinder, Facebook and some others have expanded their gender identity list to include some of these options. Wow, things are very complex now. I need a guide book for figuring it out. I looked some of them up then forgot what they mean. Looks like they left off Lesbian Separatist.

    Agender
    Androgyne
    Androgynous
    Bigender
    Cis
    Cisgender
    Cis Female
    Cis Male
    Cis Man
    Cis Woman
    Cisgender Female
    Cisgender Male
    Cisgender Man
    Cisgender Woman
    Female to Male
    FTM
    Gender Fluid
    Gender Nonconforming
    Gender Questioning
    Gender Variant
    Genderqueer
    Intersex
    Male to Female
    MTF
    Neither
    Neutrois
    Non-binary
    Other
    Pangender
    Trans
    Trans*
    Trans Female
    Trans* Female
    Trans Male
    Trans* Male
    Trans Man
    Trans* Man
    Trans Person
    Trans* Person
    Trans Woman
    Trans* Woman
    Transfeminine
    Transgender
    Transgender Female
    Transgender Male
    Transgender Man
    Transgender Person
    Transgender Woman
    Transmasculine
    Transsexual
    Transsexual Female
    Transsexual Male
    Transsexual Man
    Transsexual Person
    Transsexual Woman
    Two-Spirit

    source:

    NSFW

    https://danielteolijr.wordpress.com...america-will-look-like-100-years-after-frank/

    But, this is a 2 sided coin. In an anything goes world, then anything goes...even a Trump presidency.
     
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    Well duh.

    then I'm someone you're not addressing.

    So what the hell's your point?
     
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    I am a hetero female and when I have seen two good looking guys kissing it was actually fun to watch. Different strokes for different folks and homosexuality btw...is as old as the ages.
     
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    It makes me wanna throw up.
     
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    Anyone airing their sexual dirty laundry is an idiot. Enjoy yourself...just shut up. OK?
     
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    The line is drawn with the pedophiles in the Catholic church actually preying on children.

    Children learning about how society works in real life is not a problem.

    What is encouraging in that the upcoming generations are less inclined to be bigots and homophobes and that has got to be a good thing for our society.
     
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    There is nothing x-rated about children's cartoons so you are just overreacting to your own imagination.
     
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    Ironic given that you want to selfishly live in a bubble where no gays are allowed and impose it on everyone else in America.
     
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    Children were sexually abused by pedophile Catholic priests and the entire world had a major problem with it happening.

    No one is pressuring Disney to do anything. Disney has actually been at the forefront of gay rights for a very long time. They were offering healthcare coverage to the same sex partners of their employees back in the 1990's!

    This is not Disney's problem, it is yours and yours alone!
     
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    Inane fearmongering trying to equate pedophilia with gays! :eekeyes:
     
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    If "putting thoughts into their heads" is child abuse then exposing children to religion at an early age fits that same definition of child abuse.

    "Yes, Tommy, driving nails through someone's hands and feet and then hanging them on a cross to die is perfectly fine!"

    "No, Jenny, two adults who love one another getting married is wrong!"

    Indoctrination of small children with those values could be considered to be "a form of child abuse".
     
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    Your source has a biased agenda and therefore is not credible.

    Kinsey's work was criticized but subsequent studies and peer reviews only found marginal differences in his findings.

    He is demonized by the religious right (like your source) because he dared to bring sexuality, and homosexuality, out into the daylight where it could be understood in a scientific way for what it really was instead of it being cloaked in religious bias and stigma.
     
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    I will say this, the Witherspoon Institute is a conservative think tank that primarily opposes abortion and same-sex marriage. Within that context, their opinions are tainted as they cannot be considered objective. It's an authoritative voice but in a crowd of hundreds of other authoritative voices with varying opinions on the same topic, it doesn't carry much weight.
     
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    It's somewhere between hormonal imbalance and a chosen lifestyle.

    Thjis from an earlier post:

    Seeing as there is no behavioural connection between homosexuality and paedophilia, those three low-life creatures were obviously perverted child abusers. I hope they all took an extremely long time to die and in the most painful way possible, and if I could I'd make them go through it over and over again unto eternity.
     
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    Who do you think isn't biased in some way?
     
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    Good question. In the legal sense, the Witherspoon Institute acts more like an amicus curiae as opposed to an actual plaintiff or litigant. They are academic and tend to see themselves as an august body of knowledge, that support points of view. Sort of like the Rand Corporation.
     
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    I don't think it is a good thing for our society to call people bigots and homophobes because
    some gay pedophiles chose the church as cover for their sick perverted acts against children.
    Gay pedophiles should be blamed for their actions, not excused by liberals or allowed to
    participate in their gay parades.
     
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